Irony and Antifa

 Talking with another friend, who is Antifa-aligned, she was ranting about this weekend's Trump marches in D.C. She characterized them as offensive because of the claimed focus by some of them on trying to destroy the makeshift BLM memorial fence (or, as the Trump protesters phrased it, 'clean up litter on public property').

"I confronted them and told them they were bad guests," she said. "Can you imagine coming into someone's town and destroying their memorials to the dead?"

"Are you kidding me?" I said, taken aback. "Going to people's towns and destroying their statutes and memorials is what your people have been doing for a year!"

"Those had white supremacist ties."

"Ulysses Grant?"

"That one shouldn't have happened, and we confronted the people who took it down afterwards to explain."

"Abraham Lincoln?" 

I didn't get anywhere with this conversation, as it was apparently impossible to convey that her outrage was completely parallel to their own. She thinks of their heroes as white supremacists, justifying the destruction of their statues; they think of the pictures on that fence as a collection of mostly criminals. 

In fact they are mostly criminals, just as in fact many of the statues depict people who held slaves in their lifetimes. Neither side can see that the other side isn't trying to honor the bad parts, but the exemplary aspects of the person's life. It's impossible to find a human being to honor who didn't do anything that is unworthy. It's rare to find one worthy of any kind of honor. Yet it is important -- it is necessary -- that we show honor to those who are worthy of it.

As Malcolm Reynolds put it, "It’s my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind son of a bitch or another. Ain’t about you... It’s about what they need."

8 comments:

douglas said...

George Floyd did nothing heroic, or worthy of honoring. His death was at best tragic, but nothing near the reasons people have statues made of them. I think the equity proposed here is lacking.

ymarsakar said...

I will see more than that destroyed before the decades are over, Grim.

Burn it All Down wasn't a line I copied from humans. It is one of my mission directives.

Only from the ashes does a new, reborn, Phoenix, New Atlantis of America deserve a beginning.

ymarsakar said...

"Are you kidding me?" I said, taken aback. "Going to people's towns and destroying their statutes and memorials is what your people have been doing for a year!"

Karma and Divine law does exist. The endless cycle of violence.

It is to teach humanity that All is One as per the Law of One. Attacking another is the same as attacking yourself. Attacking their statues and memorials, is the same attacking your own memorials.

As I wrote before, heroes and mass murderers just depends on whose side they are on. An American sniper hero and patriot, is a mass killer to the enemies that he was shooting.

That's a fact, nothing controversial about it. One side's champion, is the enemy's Satan or Darth Vader.

Instead of endlessly repeating this cycle of violence, time is running out. The Godhead has decreed that humanity will cease their petty squabbles one way or another.

I'm just a messenger, don't shoot the messenger. Not that it will work any ways.

Tom said...

Jayne!

Grim said...

It’s hard to say much about George except that he was a martyr for their faith. But if you belong to the faith, that’s more than enough.

ymarsakar said...

George F was someone that the black community under Demoncrat plantation suppression and trauma, could relate to. The idea that he would be on drugs, get off of it and get a new life, semi functional, is itself out of the grasp of many blacks who feel they need to vote Demoncrat or be slaughtered.

This tradition is akin to the Southern tradition over Lincoln and Sherman. It is not open to "logical analysis" because it isn't logical to begin with. It's a trauma based survival trait acquired from their ancestors.

Republicans have their own standards of what a hero is. NOT Criminal, being one of them, which is why they didn't shed too many tears for the sacrifices of Waco 1 or Waco 2. They may have been conservative or not... but it was a relief for many to see the State executing and getting rid of the "riff raff" "fringe" communities. Biker clubs and religious cults. Good riddance.

The Left, however, HAS A LIST. And eventually.. they will get to who else is on the list. Which is EVERYONE.

Christopher B said...

Is anybody putting up pictures of Philando Castile

I'm sure Justine Diamond's picture is missing.

Grim said...

You know, the photos I can find of it online suggest it's 90%+ political statements rather than memorials anyway. But I did see Philando Castile's name painted on a bar in Asheville the other day, as one among a list of the martyrs.