Hillary Clinton has a peculiarly unpleasant style. Here she is sparring, and finally quarreling, with an NPR interviewer who's trying to pin her down on whether she always supported gay marriage, but didn't think she could afford to admit it until recently, or instead was a gay-basher who only recently came around. Clinton tries to argue that the whole country was against gay marriage until recently, so you can't blame her for being a johnny-come-lately, which the NPR interviewer isn't buying for one minute. In the last two minutes, Clinton's snide side comes out loud and clear.
For what it's worth, my views on gay marriage were fully formed in the 1970s, so I guess I was several decades ahead of Her Inevitableness, even though I'm a bitter clinger and actually carry a "Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy" card in my wallet.
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NPR is in their pocket.
For what it's worth, my views on gay marriage were fully formed in the 1970s...
So were mine.
I'm still forming mine, but I have to say that the rhetoric of the pro-same sex marriage side seems based primarily on ad hominem (variations of "Shut up!") and Hollywood fantasy, which doesn't really work for me. (To explain a bit more, I'm reconsidering the idea of marriage itself and how much the government should be involved at all; it's not just SSM that I haven't decided about.)
Another issue is that SSM proponents also demand the right to violate others' religious freedom, which inclines me to oppose SSM as it's framed now.
Only 200+ years ago, the phrase was "...laws of nature and nature's God."
Now it's "whatever makes your [private parts] feel good."
That's quite a change.
What I find remarkable is the aggressiveness with which NPR went after Hillary.
Did they ever challenge Obama that way? I'm guessing the answer is a resounding "No". It's almost as though she were an Evil Rethuglican profit hoarding, proletariat oppressing, Gaia-raping minion of the wealthiest 1%.
But I repeat my ownself. It's almost as though she were a Rethug.
I wonder if NPR's dislike of Hillary comes from a lingering dislike of Bill? Or from her less-than-responsiveness to them when she was Sec-State and Senatrix?
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Or just because she's a thoroughly unpleasant, lying backstabber? That doesn't explain why they gave Obama a pass, of course.
I think Hillary's problem really is unpleasantness -- nobody, apparently anywhere, really likes her.
But the gays should be the last people against her. She may not have been openly in favor of their pet cause, but she was certainly covertly so. She was heavily invested in the gay faction of the Democratic party in 2008, and showed every intention of pushing for them if elected. If she was lying about her position, it was only in their service.
She committed the cardinal sin of not being with it. Did she not understand that she was talking to a movement liberal? These people didn't wake up last year and consider gay rights for the first time. They've been committed to the issue for decades, and they probably never meet anyone except Westboro Baptist parishioners who've doubted the point at any time during their adult lives. Clinton tried to convince the interviewer that "all Americans" were johnny-come-latelies like herself.
Hillary (well, Bill anyway) was being resolutely political in 1998, something that he appears after all to have been good at for some reason, (or at least people seem to think he was good at it), and Terry Gross has an talent for needling people (she got Bill O'Reilly to walk out of an interview) on flip flopping things like this.
But I think lots of people don't like Hillary and they're not all Republicans, either.
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