Nicomachean Ethics IV.1b

The first chapter of Book IV continues. Yesterday we learned that liberality is more concerned with giving well than with taking; but the opposing vices concern both. We will see in the fullness of the analysis that giving still remains the most important.
The prodigal errs in these respects also; for he is neither pleased nor pained at the right things or in the right way; this will be more evident as we go on. We have said that prodigality and meanness are excesses and deficiencies, and in two things, in giving and in taking; for we include spending under giving. Now prodigality exceeds in giving and not taking, while meanness falls short in giving, and exceeds in taking, except in small things. The characteristics of prodigality are not often combined; for it is not easy to give to all if you take from none; private persons soon exhaust their substance with giving, and it is to these that the name of prodigals is applied- though a man of this sort would seem to be in no small degree better than a mean man.

Why is the prodigal better than the mean? Because his vice can't go on forever, and therefore won't.

For he is easily cured both by age and by poverty, and thus he may move towards the middle state. For he has the characteristics of the liberal man, since he both gives and refrains from taking, though he does neither of these in the right manner or well. Therefore if he were brought to do so by habituation or in some other way, he would be liberal; for he will then give to the right people, and will not take from the wrong sources. This is why he is thought to have not a bad character; it is not the mark of a wicked or ignoble man to go to excess in giving and not taking, but only of a foolish one. The man who is prodigal in this way is thought much better than the mean man both for the aforesaid reasons and because he benefits many while the other benefits no one, not even himself.

I'm going to put in a jump break for length, but if you skip the second part you will miss one of the more entertaining discussions.

Postcards from Way Outside Popular Culture

I gave up television in 2004, when I realized that I was only using our $80/month cable subscription to watch old cowboy movies on the Western Channel. In the ensuing two decades I haven't missed it, but I do find that I don't really know what's going on with cultural references. A few years ago, Cassandra of Villainous Company was making some remarks about Kate Upton; I couldn't understand why she was saying such things about the Princess of Wales, who had seemed nice enough when I read about her in the paper. Turns out there were two "Kate [Directional]ton" people, and one of them was a celebrity I didn't know about.

This week has been kind of like that. All of the blogs are talking about some old movie I vaguely recall having heard of but didn't see because it was a horror film. Only it turns out that was "Sweeny Todd," not "Sydney Sweeny," the latter of whom would have been seven years old when I quit watching TV.

OK, well, I know who she is now. People have a lot to say about how she looks, and you know, sure; she's a lovely young woman. But the most attractive thing about her to me is that she knows how to turn a wrench. I assumed on first viewing that the 1965 Mustang was a prop and that she had a stunt driver in this commercial. 


Not at all: turns out she's a trained mechanic who modifies old Fords for fun. Apparently Ford had the sense to get her to collaborate on a new Mustang, too. 

That's a cut above the kind of celebrity you usually hear about. 

The Triton

The Triton a-sail.

Last week's quick run to the Deep South was occasioned by a chance to observe a demonstration of the Triton autonomous underwater and surface vehicle, which is becoming a US Navy Program of Record. It did so without going through the crazy, expensive Pentagon procurement process; it was built independently and then proved that it satisfied requirements by being subjected to intensive testing.

Submerging.

It's a pretty neat piece of kit. I won't go into details about its uses for obvious reasons, but I'm glad we are the ones who will have the thing.

Nicomachean Ethics IV.1a: Liberality

Book IV begins with an extremely long chapter that I will break into two parts. It has to do with the first of the 'spending virtues,' liberality. Now the word implies that one is bountiful and generous, but of course for Aristotle it is meant to be the mean between the extremes. Thus, the normal, natural position of a person should be generosity:

Let us speak next of liberality. It seems to be the mean with regard to wealth; for the liberal man is praised not in respect of military matters, nor of those in respect of which the temrate man is praised, nor of judicial decisions, but with regard to the giving and taking of wealth, and especially in respect of giving. Now by 'wealth' we mean all the things whose value is measured by money.

This might be surprising, especially for those who were raised to think of thrift as a virtue. However, it is the magic of the spirit behind capitalism that free exchange causes a flourishing that increases the wealth of all. Hoarded wealth does nothing, like the dragon's gold in the Beowulf that simply laid hidden in the earth for generations, doing no one any good. It's the exchanging that creates flourishing. If I take some of that wealth and spend it to hire an artist, my world now has beauty; if I pay for a meal, it has good food. The artist and the cook now have money they can spend to improve their lives and to yield to others the ability to improve theirs also. 

This is a fecund understanding to have come from the ancient world, which was in positive terms much poorer than we are today. Even so, they already had the spirit of it: generosity is the natural position, the mean for which we should strive. 

It is also surprising to hear prodigality discussed outside the Biblical context: the story of 'the prodigal son,' which frames our understanding for more than two centuries, was not available to Aristotle. 

Further, prodigality and meanness are excesses and defects with regard to wealth; and meanness we always impute to those who care more than they ought for wealth, but we sometimes apply the word 'prodigality' in a complex sense; for we call those men prodigals who are incontinent and spend money on self-indulgence. Hence also they are thought the poorest characters; for they combine more vices than one. Therefore the application of the word to them is not its proper use; for a 'prodigal' means a man who has a single evil quality, that of wasting his substance; since a prodigal is one who is being ruined by his own fault, and the wasting of substance is thought to be a sort of ruining of oneself, life being held to depend on possession of substance.

This, then, is the sense in which we take the word 'prodigality'.

Thus prodigality is properly wasting one's substance, which means spending beyond what one can continue to support. It is not spending generously, but excessively.

Now the things that have a use may be used either well or badly; and riches is a useful thing; and everything is used best by the man who has the virtue concerned with it; riches, therefore, will be used best by the man who has the virtue concerned with wealth; and this is the liberal man.

A Random Musical Interlude




Spoons and a washtub bass

Gotta end with an outlaw

Nicomachean Ethics III.12

This is the final chapter of Book III.
Self-indulgence is more like a voluntary state than cowardice. For the former is actuated by pleasure, the latter by pain, of which the one is to be chosen and the other to be avoided; and pain upsets and destroys the nature of the person who feels it, while pleasure does nothing of the sort. Therefore self-indulgence is more voluntary.

Is it true that pleasure does not 'upset and destroy the nature' of the person who experiences it? It seems as if sometimes it does; users of crystal meth, for example, often seem to come undone as a result of the pleasure they experience -- to the point that they will find their body covered in scabs and their teeth rotting out for lack of care. 

Temperance isn't about pharmakon, though. It is about natural pleasures: food, drink, sex. Those pleasures might destroy you -- drink perhaps especially, but sex can too. They are still all less dangerous than the workings of sorcerers

Hence also [self-indulgence] is more a matter of reproach [than cowardice]; for it is easier to become accustomed to its objects, since there are many things of this sort in life, and the process of habituation to them is free from danger, while with terrible objects the reverse is the case. But cowardice would seem to be voluntary in a different degree from its particular manifestations; for it is itself painless, but in these we are upset by pain, so that we even throw down our arms and disgrace ourselves in other ways; hence our acts are even thought to be done under compulsion. For the self-indulgent man, on the other hand, the particular acts are voluntary (for he does them with craving and desire), but the whole state is less so; for no one craves to be self-indulgent.

There's a reasonable point that you have a lot more power over the habituation process with self-indulgence, both because you have regular -- probably daily -- opportunities to practice temperance, and because you can do so in a state that is free from danger. Opportunities to be brave are much less common, and by nature entail a state of peril that can disrupt your reasoning. Thus, to the degree that you are self-indulgent you are especially blameworthy.

The name self-indulgence is applied also to childish faults; for they bear a certain resemblance to what we have been considering. Which is called after which, makes no difference to our present purpose; plainly, however, the later is called after the earlier. The transference of the name seems not a bad one; for that which desires what is base and which develops quickly ought to be kept in a chastened condition, and these characteristics belong above all to appetite and to the child, since children in fact live at the beck and call of appetite, and it is in them that the desire for what is pleasant is strongest. If, then, it is not going to be obedient and subject to the ruling principle, it will go to great lengths; for in an irrational being the desire for pleasure is insatiable even if it tries every source of gratification, and the exercise of appetite increases its innate force, and if appetites are strong and violent they even expel the power of calculation. Hence they should be moderate and few, and should in no way oppose the rational principle-and this is what we call an obedient and chastened state-and as the child should live according to the direction of his tutor, so the appetitive element should live according to rational principle.

Here we find an interesting insight: the child isn't expected to be temperate yet because they have not yet had their proper upbringing nor the opportunity to habituate temperance. The self-indulgent is thus possessed of a kind of immature character; they are analogously childish. They haven't grown up yet and put away childish things. The tutor of the child is meant to be replaced by the rational principle in us as adults; the proper upbringing is supposed to inculcate an understanding of what to practice as an adult. Once we develop the internal rule, we no longer need -- and should no longer want -- to be ruled from outside ourselves by others. The freedom of adulthood is won by this self-mastery.  

Hence the appetitive element in a temperate man should harmonize with the rational principle; for the noble is the mark at which both aim, and the temperate man craves for the things be ought, as he ought, as when he ought; and when he ought; and this is what rational principle directs.

Here we conclude our account of temperance.

Short and succinct compared to the long discussion of courage, but that is because courage serves as a model. Note that it was relatively easy to compare and contrast self-indulgence to cowardice, spell out how they are different, and then we can move on. 

In Book IV we will encounter many more virtues.  

Hollywood Makes Even Conan Break Promises

 


From Your Lips to God's Ear

DOGE has built an automated/augmented intelligence bot with an astonishing goal.
The U.S. DOGE Service is using a new artificial intelligence tool to slash federal regulations, with the goal of eliminating half of Washington’s regulatory mandates by the first anniversary of President Donald Trump’s inauguration, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post and four government officials familiar with the plans.

The tool, called the “DOGE AI Deregulation Decision Tool,” is supposed to analyze roughly 200,000 federal regulations to determine which can be eliminated because they are no longer required by law, according to a PowerPoint presentation obtained by The Post that is dated July 1 and outlines DOGE’s plans. Roughly 100,000 of those rules would be deemed worthy of trimming, the PowerPoint estimates — mostly through the automated tool with some staff feedback. The PowerPoint also suggests the AI tool will save the United States trillions of dollars by reducing compliance requirements, slashing the federal budget and unlocking unspecified “external investment.”

That would be amazing. Since these are administrative regulations, too, they don't require Congressional action in most cases. 

A Brief Review

Jim Hanson would like to review best practices with close-quarter pistols.
The story he is referencing is here.

Another Evil Buzzword

This time the word is "mankeeping," which is I gather women having to care about their partners. 
Much of the time, Mr. Lioi said, his straight male clients tell him that they rarely open up to anyone but their girlfriends or wives. Their partners have become their unofficial therapists, he said, “doing all the emotional labor.”

That particular role now has a name: “mankeeping.” The term, coined by Angelica Puzio Ferrara, a postdoctoral fellow at Stanford University, has taken off online. It describes the work women do to meet the social and emotional needs of the men in their lives, from supporting their partners through daily challenges and inner turmoil, to encouraging them to meet up with their friends.

I have frequently suggested that there is a significant downside to the intrusion of 'therapy' into every aspect of life; here is another aspect of it. Of course you should rely chiefly on your spouse for your emotional needs: in sickness and in health, for richer or poorer, etc. That is the bargain, and of old it was understood that husband and wife were partners in all of life's highs and lows. It wasn't seen as "unofficial therapy," or any sort of therapy. It was marriage; it was life. 

Therapy is properly limited to those who are recovering from injuries. Treating ordinary life as an ongoing source of injury -- indeed, usually as a source of "trauma"! -- has numerous bad follow-on effects. The implication here is that you should be paying somebody to 'treat' you for whatever daily difficulties you encounter. Otherwise, you're unfairly imposing on your spouse. 

The strength of a marriage comes from learning that you can rely on each other. A marriage works because you become practiced in leaning on each other, and find a partner who will help you carry your weight. You, in turn, help them with their own. 

I do think it's good to have friends; we talked about that not long ago. I wonder how quickly, though, these same women who are complaining about having to care for their partners would find themselves jealous if that emotional bonding was swapped outside of the marriage to another person. 

US Concessions to EU

None, apparently. They will tax our goods at 0%, we'll tax theirs at 15%. $600BB in U.S. investments and $750BB in energy purchases, replacing Russia as the provider of Europe's liquefied natural gas. 

I guess he is good at this deal-making thing. He understood the leverage, and explained it well enough that the EU sounded grateful to get out of this without it being worse for them.

RIP Tom Lehrer

I admit that I had not realized he was still alive; his work is well-known to me, but all of his famous pieces are from before I was born. 
Tom Lehrer, the Harvard-trained mathematician whose wickedly iconoclastic songs made him a favorite satirist in the 1950s and ’60s on college campuses and in all the Greenwich Villages of the country, died on Saturday at his home in Cambridge, Mass. He was 97.... Mr. Lehrer’s lyrics were nimble, sometimes salacious and almost always sardonic, sung to music that tended to be maddeningly cheerful. 
Let's have a few of them in memoriam





There are a whole lot more, if you like the form. These are all national security oriented, which is how they originally came across my desk (as it were). There are plenty that are not. 

Nicomachean Ethics III.11

Of the appetites some seem to be common, others to be peculiar to individuals and acquired; e.g. the appetite for food is natural, since every one who is without it craves for food or drink, and sometimes for both, and for love also (as Homer says) if he is young and lusty; but not every one craves for this or that kind of nourishment or love, nor for the same things. Hence such craving appears to be our very own.

That is straightforward enough.  

Yet [this craving of one's own] has of course something natural about it; for different things are pleasant to different kinds of people, and some things are more pleasant to every one than chance objects. Now in the natural appetites few go wrong, and only in one direction, that of excess; for to eat or drink whatever offers itself till one is surfeited is to exceed the natural amount, since natural appetite is the replenishment of one's deficiency.

This isn't strictly true, as we see e.g. in cases of anorexia, but he is correct that almost everyone only goes wrong in being excessive.

Hence these people are called belly-gods, this implying that they fill their belly beyond what is right. It is people of entirely slavish character that become like this.

There is a term that we might usefully recover: belly-gods! 

Aristotle believes in natural slavery, by which he means that some people are fitted out by their natures only to be slaves. Here is an example of someone who might be that way, because they are incapable of controlling even their most basic impulses. 

However, I note that in Iraq I observed that the very few genuinely obese men I met were sheikhs of one sort or another. In many cultures the ability to become fat is a demonstration of power, and a proof of command rather than slavishness. I wonder if Aristotle is merely encultured to the Greek approach here. 

But with regard to the pleasures peculiar to individuals many people go wrong and in many ways.

Our age has filled books on this topic -- mostly autobiographies by people proud of their errors. 

For while the people who are 'fond of so and so' are so called because they delight either in the wrong things, or more than most people do, or in the wrong way, the self-indulgent exceed in all three ways; they both delight in some things that they ought not to delight in (since they are hateful), and if one ought to delight in some of the things they delight in, they do so more than one ought and than most men do.

So, that's important to enumerate. 

Ways to go wrong in desire for food/drink/sex: 

1) Delighting in the wrong things, which are hateful things.
2) Delighting too much in the right things.
3) Delighting in the right things, but in the wrong way.
4) Doing all three of these at once ("self-indulgence"). 

Note another partial ad populum appeal: "more than one ought to and than most men do." There is a logos, sometimes, that lets us know what one 'ought' to do; but we must in other cases appeal to what is normal. Our culture has rejected both of those approaches: it rejects a logos based on any sort of human telos, and also rejects the idea that what is normal -- say, not being transgender -- should be a standard that is in any way binding. That's a challenge, particularly on matters of temperance (which, again, include all sexual pleasures).

Plainly, then, excess with regard to pleasures is self-indulgence and is culpable; with regard to pains one is not, as in the case of courage, called temperate for facing them or self-indulgent for not doing so, but the self-indulgent man is so called because he is pained more than he ought at not getting pleasant things (even his pain being caused by pleasure), and the temperate man is so called because he is not pained at the absence of what is pleasant and at his abstinence from it.

The self-indulgent man, then, craves for all pleasant things or those that are most pleasant, and is led by his appetite to choose these at the cost of everything else; hence he is pained both when he fails to get them and when he is merely craving for them (for appetite involves pain); but it seems absurd to be pained for the sake of pleasure.

There's a sort of non-logical contradiction, which is an odd entity: contradictions really only belong to logic, not to ethics in which strict logic doesn't (because it cannot) apply. This absurdity is thus analogous to a contradiction rather than a true contradiction (pace Hegel, who built his entire moral philosophy around 'contradictions' of this sort). Aristotle seems to have synthesized the law of non-contradiction into a form that we still use today and in a way that was central to his metaphysics, so even an analogy to a contradiction strikes him as absurd and offensive. 

People who fall short with regard to pleasures and delight in them less than they should are hardly found; for such insensibility is not human. Even the other animals distinguish different kinds of food and enjoy some and not others; and if there is any one who finds nothing pleasant and nothing more attractive than anything else, he must be something quite different from a man; this sort of person has not received a name because he hardly occurs.

There are enough of them these days that they have a flag and several names for variants. There are a lot more people now, however, so even that which 'hardly occurs' will occur when there are eight billion instances. 

The temperate man occupies a middle position with regard to these objects. For he neither enjoys the things that the self-indulgent man enjoys most-but rather dislikes them-nor in general the things that he should not, nor anything of this sort to excess, nor does he feel pain or craving when they are absent, or does so only to a moderate degree, and not more than he should, nor when he should not, and so on; but the things that, being pleasant, make for health or for good condition, he will desire moderately and as he should, and also other pleasant things if they are not hindrances to these ends, or contrary to what is noble, or beyond his means. For he who neglects these conditions loves such pleasures more than they are worth, but the temperate man is not that sort of person, but the sort of person that the right rule prescribes.

This having become so foundational a standard of Judeo-Christian ethics, it hardly needs elaboration.

Tribute to Ozzy



 

And a little Metallica from the same band



Movement Toward a Post-Literate Society

I've gone on in comments a bit about how many teens and twenty-somethings have trouble reading more than a few paragraphs or maybe a couple of pages and so university professors have, in general, adapted by giving shorter and shorter readings for classes.

Now the College Board has followed suit with the SAT and it looks like the ACT is making similar changes.*

The College Board notes on page 13 of its Digital SAT Suite of Assessments technical framework that two of the primary goals in changing the exam were to make it shorter and to give students more time per question. To make this happen in the new “Reading and Writing” section of the test, they shortened reading passages from 500-750 words all the way down to 25-150 words, or the length of a social-media post, with one question per passage. Their explanation is that this model “operates more efficiently when choices about what test content to deliver are made in small rather than larger units.”

...

Finally, the optional essay was eliminated completely.

The math section has been made easier over the last 15 years as well.


*Although the author of the article is Michael Torres, the policy director for the Classic Learning Test (CLT), which is trying to compete with the SAT and ACT, the SAT published the changes and defends them.

Pāgānī

Public Accommodations

Having been born in Atlanta where the issue was important at the time, I grew up understanding that a 'public accommodation' can't discriminate in choosing whom it serves. You used to see signs in businesses asserting that 'We reserve the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason,' but in fact the government held that they had no such right to reserve. At issue was whether the future governor's restaurant could refuse to serve black customers
By the 1960s the Pickrick had expanded to feed 400 diners - all white. And that made Maddox a target for African-American protest. After the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964, it also brought him into conflict with the federal law. But it made him a hero to white working-class Georgians and small businessmen, who bitterly resented being told what to do by Washington.

Contrary to mythology, Maddox never beat any black people, though the day after the passage of the act, he did dent the roof of a black minister's car. He also waved a pistol and was put on trial on gun charges, but was acquitted by an all-white jury. In the summer of 1964, Maddox organised a rally in Atlanta for George Wallace and also for Calvin Craig, the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan.

To liberals, Maddox became an ugly symbol of southern "redneck" racism. To himself, and to many of his customers, the issue was not about race but about freedom. He saw himself as a small businessman whose rights over his property were being taken from him. When he closed his restaurant, rather than allow blacks to eat there as ordered by a federal injunction, he said that "my president, my Congress and the communists have closed my business and ended a childhood dream".

Maddox lost that fight, even though he later did become governor. The principle was enshrined in the law, specifically Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. 

This all leads me to ask, is Uber a public accommodation

Uber is piloting a new option for its U.S. app that will allow female passengers to request women drivers, coming after the company has long grappled with preventing sexual assault on its platform.

The feature, called Women Preferences, will launch in a pilot stage in Los Angeles, San Francisco and Detroit in the next few weeks, Uber said in a blog post on Wednesday. It marks the first time the popular rideshare app is bringing this option to its service in the United States after launching it in 40 other countries.

Uber joins Lyft and other taxi hailing apps, like HERide and Just Her Rideshare, that connect female passengers with women drivers.

Women drivers on Uber can also refuse to pick up men, or those who look like men. 

I don't really mind the notion because I agree that we should allow women reasonable steps to protect their safety. These don't have to turn on blanket sex discrimination. Uber, for example, already allows drivers to rate their passengers as well as the other way around, giving drivers information about the quality of the ride they might be asked to deliver. I don't often use Uber since there is no such thing way out here, but on the rare occasion that I have used it in cities I have maintained my 5.0 rating as a passenger by being courteous and tipping well. If you look at that rating you will have a reasonable confidence that picking me up will be a pleasant experience even though I am quite completely male. 

There is a broader social issue at work. Conservative women (mostly) have been fighting a pitched battle to defend female-only spaces. Although these are not themselves 'public accommodations' they often exist in the context of things that are: locker rooms in gymnasia or restrooms in hotel restaurants, for example. There seems to be some hedge for allowing sex discrimination as long as it is pointed always in the one direction of excluding males.

The Babylon Bee's got jokes (and about Ozzy and Hulk and Gaza too!), but I always wonder with our anti-discrimination laws if there is actually a real principle at work or not. Straight white males seem to be readily subject to discrimination in hiring, education, accommodation and now getting a ride back to the hotel from that meeting. LGBT folk face at least some discrimination, being formally unprotected. Even Black men are now subject to this ride discrimination thing in what seems like a 'public accommodation,' and they were the original class that Title II of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 intended to protect. 

Does the law mean anything, or are we still just playing favorites? It's hard to discern anything remotely like 'equality' in the way these things keep playing out. 

Requiescant in Pace

It was not a surprise to learn that Ozzy Osbourne had died after his farewell concert, which was only seventeen days before his death. That was exactly how Lemmy Kilmister had finished his life, down to the number of days as I understand it. 

I was surprised to read that Hulk Hogan had died yesterday, however. Terry Gene Bollea, rather, the actor who played Hulk Hogan -- although it was doubtless the Hulk's character that brought about the steroid use and physical injuries that led to his many surgeries and heart condition. 

May they rest in peace. They were both important figures in my youth, and Ozzy long before that; he was making some of his best music before I was born, and much of the rest while I was too young to appreciate it yet. 

Hanging Journalists


You can read the article the poster wanted to hang him over here, if you are so inclined. I've never met nor spoken with Mr. Stephens, but he is fielding some of the same arguments that I have myself. I take them to be honest considerations, and would hate to see even a New York Times journalist hanged over speaking what they see as the truth. Others may oppose the truth by giving their own arguments; and in defense of the Times' honor on this point, I believe that they publish at least one view opposing that one every day. Here is today's; and here is a collection of letters on both sides in response to Stephen's piece. One of them points out that the US killed 200,000 people with one bomb in Japan to force a surrender; Richard Fernandez today raises a similar point about the use of starvation to force that surrender.

Of course, if you're trying to 'globalize the intifada,' I suppose killing anyone anywhere is all right if it advances the cause. Journalists and even bloggers like Fernandez or myself are no exceptions. Death comes for all; war sometimes does too. 

Nicomachean Ethics III.10

After courage let us speak of temperance; for these seem to be the virtues of the irrational parts. We have said that temperance is a mean with regard to pleasures (for it is less, and not in the same way, concerned with pains); self-indulgence also is manifested in the same sphere.

'The virtues of the irrational parts' of the soul, that is; but of course the virtues are not themselves part of the irrational part of the soul. They are the rational parts of the soul that control the irrational parts. Courage, as you have read several times now, is concerned with fear of pains to include wounds and death; temperance, principally with pleasures not to be over-indulged. 

Aquinas' promotion of temperance over courage makes sense even on Aristotle's own terms when you remember that Aquinas pointed out that most people are more motivated by pleasure than pain; recall the talk about Helen at the gates

Now, therefore, let us determine with what sort of pleasures they are concerned. We may assume the distinction between bodily pleasures and those of the soul, such as love of honour and love of learning; for the lover of each of these delights in that of which he is a lover, the body being in no way affected, but rather the mind; but men who are concerned with such pleasures are called neither temperate nor self-indulgent.

Indeed, the love of seeking that most worthy of honor is magnanimity, which is going to prove to be the capstone and crown of virtue. So: the high pleasures of the soul, especially to include living in a way that is most worthy of honor, should not be tempered but embraced.

There are other things people find pleasant that should not be, even though they are not bodily pleasures:

Nor, again, are those who are concerned with the other pleasures that are not bodily; for those who are fond of hearing and telling stories and who spend their days on anything that turns up are called gossips, but not self-indulgent, nor are those who are pained at the loss of money or of friends.

The Stoics might suggest that allowing yourself to be pained at the loss of money or friends is irrational, but grief over the loss of friends falls within Aristotle's quite large concession to friendship as part of the good life. Marcus Aurelias would remind you that you always knew your friends were mortal; but for Aristotle, life without friends is much impoverished because it degrades the life of one's own mind by removing another self in whose good you can also find happiness, which is the end of ethics.

Temperance must be concerned with bodily pleasures, but not all even of these; for those who delight in objects of vision, such as colours and shapes and painting, are called neither temperate nor self-indulgent; yet it would seem possible to delight even in these either as one should or to excess or to a deficient degree.

And so too is it with objects of hearing; no one calls those who delight extravagantly in music or acting self-indulgent, nor those who do so as they ought temperate.

Nor do we apply these names to those who delight in odour, unless it be incidentally; we do not call those self-indulgent who delight in the odour of apples or roses or incense, but rather those who delight in the odour of unguents or of dainty dishes; for self-indulgent people delight in these because these remind them of the objects of their appetite. And one may see even other people, when they are hungry, delighting in the smell of food; but to delight in this kind of thing is the mark of the self-indulgent man; for these are objects of appetite to him.

You may note the oddity of Aristotle referring so much to the common judgment: 'no one calls...' is argumentum ad populum. Aristotle was not concerned with what would later come to be called the informal fallacies; his considerations on logic generally point at formal logic, which isn't appropriate to ethics (EN I.3 again). He discusses the issue somewhat in the Rhetoric, especially in Book I, but there he is talking about enthymemes rather than strict logical arguments. "However, where the general premise of a syllogism is supposed to be true, making the subsequent deduction necessary, the general premise of an enthymeme is merely probable, which leads only to a tentative conclusion," thus making them proper for ethical/political arguments. 

Nor is there in animals other than man any pleasure connected with these senses, except incidentally. For dogs do not delight in the scent of hares, but in the eating of them, but the scent told them the hares were there; nor does the lion delight in the lowing of the ox, but in eating it; but he perceived by the lowing that it was near, and therefore appears to delight in the lowing; and similarly he does not delight because he sees 'a stag or a wild goat', but because he is going to make a meal of it.

This psychology of animals is entirely speculative; I personally think dogs seem to delight greatly in the scent of hares, even when the hare is long gone and there is no chance of eating one. I've known dogs who chased rabbits with great pleasure even if they wouldn't hurt it once they caught it, just because they loved to chase them.  

Temperance and self-indulgence, however, are concerned with the kind of pleasures that the other animals share in, which therefore appear slavish and brutish; these are touch and taste. But even of taste they appear to make little or no use; for the business of taste is the discriminating of flavours, which is done by winetasters and people who season dishes; but they hardly take pleasure in making these discriminations, or at least self-indulgent people do not, but in the actual enjoyment, which in all cases comes through touch, both in the case of food and in that of drink and in that of sexual intercourse. This is why a certain gourmand prayed that his throat might become longer than a crane's, implying that it was the contact that he took pleasure in.

So, food and drink and sex is what we're really interested in here. These do often tend to get people in trouble.  

Thus the sense with which self-indulgence is connected is the most widely shared of the senses; and self-indulgence would seem to be justly a matter of reproach, because it attaches to us not as men but as animals. To delight in such things, then, and to love them above all others, is brutish. For even of the pleasures of touch the most liberal have been eliminated, e.g. those produced in the gymnasium by rubbing and by the consequent heat; for the contact characteristic of the self-indulgent man does not affect the whole body but only certain parts.
We don't usually think of the self-indulgent as being especially inclined to the gymnasium, and Aristotle seems willing to grant that exception. I do think that there may be exceptions to this exception, however; but that is a topic for another time.