The 9th Circuit Court of Appeals has upheld them in doing so, but gone rather farther. They assert that Americans have no right to carry weapons in public at all.
“There is no right to carry arms openly in public; nor is any such right within the scope of the Second Amendment,” the court ruled in an “en banc” decision that involved all the panel’s judges.“We can find no general right to carry arms into the public square for self-defense,” the majority wrote, claiming that the Second Amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home.”“The power of the government to regulate carrying arms in the public square does not infringe in any way on the right of an individual to defend his home or business,” the judges wrote.
This seems to be the evolving position on the Second Amendment from the statists in response to Heller. 'Ok, maybe you have a right to own a gun that we can't completely reject,' they say, 'but only at home.' The District of Columbia will now let you own a gun, to be kept at home, registered with the police; you may not even possess ammunition for it without that permit. You may also not carry it anywhere without an additional license that they are under no obligation to provide you. (They also have a list of handguns you're allowed to buy if approved to buy them, which is called the "List of Handguns Not Determined to be Unsafe," and a list of guns you're definitely not, which they call an "Assault Weapons" ban though it appears to have been constructed largely based on scary appearances.)
So they are responding to the "right to keep and bear arms" somewhat like Ms. Clinton asking whether she was being asked if she had wiped her server with a cloth. "Yes, you can keep it at home; but bear it? What on earth could that mean? Like ride around on a bear with it? That sounds horribly unsafe."
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Yeah, we'll let you have your silly guns, but they can only hang on the wall for you to look at.
A series of minutia.
Defense, but must you retreat, or get prior permission? Defense of life, family or property, but of real property or personal possessions? Can you prove the perp's intent to murder you? Defense but was that kitchen knife registered and "approved" for that purpose? "He weren't doin nuffin."
Just ways to define "bear arms" asnd "defense" down to nothing, or that it was"your" fault.
Just for the sake of amusement, I've been going through the DC list. At least some of my guns would potentially qualify for a permit, assuming they decided it was ok to issue one to me. Others are definitely on the banned list.
"“We can find no general right to carry arms into the public square for self-defense,” the majority wrote, claiming that the Second Amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home.”
I'd argue that even if what they're saying is true, my home isn't going to function very well if I get killed while out away from it, therefore defense of myself *is* defense of my home.
I thought it was the right to arm bears.
*glances down at Victorian-style sleeves* I'm a natural redhead - my arms are never bare. However, I do go armed at all times - my weapon is between my ears.
LittleRed1
‘... claiming that the Second Amendment applies to the “defense of hearth and home.”’
What it actually says it’s for us the security of a “free state,” not “hearth and hone.” Hard to be free if you’re trapped in your home.
It's throwing things at the wall to see if they'll stick. It will not stop.
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