Really? That generally involves social pressure to force a self-denunciation, while here she is going against all of not only her social group but also her own preconceived ideas. This seems the exact opposite of Maoist reeducation self-denunciation to me.
I'm with Tom. Anyone who will talk to any crowd, let alone a Ted crowd, about opening our ears is OK by me.
I want to see ideas addressed, and I'm so tired of the ad hominem attacks and the straw-man arguments. "I hate your idea because you're a bad person, which I know because you used a phrase that I associate with someone else, who I know is a bad person because people told me he held a proscribed belief, an allegation I never even bothered to check up on." We're fighting shadows.
From about the ten minute mark it stops being about her personal evolution, and becomes about the cultural allergic reaction to taking these issues seriously. That part is important.
Cassie eventually reveals she considers her own ego as the "enemy" of the mission she began. But --
Part of the problem goes to the perception of an antagonist, an opponent, a competitor, a rival -- as an "Enemy". Kipling addresses such a difference in viewpoint.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,— Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise. Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low, To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe. Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same; And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail, The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
That's interesting, J, but I'm not quite sure what your point is. Is it wrong for her to consider her own ego the enemy here? Or, was the problem back before she changed, when she considered MRAs her enemy?
I don't think Kipling would argue that we have no enemies, so I don't really think that she shouldn't talk about an enemy at all.
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For good or ill, Jaye's talk reminded me more of a Mao-ist reeducation camp self-denunciation exercise than anything else.
I'm less interested in her journey than I am in the fact of the journey--and that was the value of her TEDx Talk for me.
Eric Hines
Really? That generally involves social pressure to force a self-denunciation, while here she is going against all of not only her social group but also her own preconceived ideas. This seems the exact opposite of Maoist reeducation self-denunciation to me.
I'm with Tom. Anyone who will talk to any crowd, let alone a Ted crowd, about opening our ears is OK by me.
I want to see ideas addressed, and I'm so tired of the ad hominem attacks and the straw-man arguments. "I hate your idea because you're a bad person, which I know because you used a phrase that I associate with someone else, who I know is a bad person because people told me he held a proscribed belief, an allegation I never even bothered to check up on." We're fighting shadows.
From about the ten minute mark it stops being about her personal evolution, and becomes about the cultural allergic reaction to taking these issues seriously. That part is important.
Shadow work, Texan. Shadow work. Internal introspection, something conservatives aren't as good with compared to more open traditions.
Cassie eventually reveals she considers her own ego as the "enemy" of the mission she began. But --
Part of the problem goes to the perception of an antagonist, an opponent, a competitor, a rival -- as an "Enemy". Kipling addresses such a difference in viewpoint.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise,—
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
That's interesting, J, but I'm not quite sure what your point is. Is it wrong for her to consider her own ego the enemy here? Or, was the problem back before she changed, when she considered MRAs her enemy?
I don't think Kipling would argue that we have no enemies, so I don't really think that she shouldn't talk about an enemy at all.
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