I'm too lazy to sort back through 3 hours and myriad of tweets. The link in OP still brings up the original graphic, though. And my own search turned up this--https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1129053941415763969 --with a time stamp of 43 minutes ago.
Well, you're not far wrong in spirit. Here's a tweet thread on de Blasio's rejection of the Williams Pipeline: https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1128845593818914816
See what Jack Dorsey and his minions think need to be hidden behind a This media may contain sensitive material. Learn more warning. Two are early on in the thread.
From Mayor Bill ( E Hines link): "Our city's message was loud and clear: we're ENDING our dependence on fossil fuels. Thank you to the Stop Williams Pipeline."
How long would NYC last if fossil fuels were cut off? Longer than a New York minute, but not that much longer. What can you expect from an idiot who loved the Sandinistas?
"How long would NYC last if fossil fuels were cut off?"
The approach of the Progs is to assert that fossil fuels only benefit the rich and the eevil corporations. The degree to which the populations as a whole benefits tends to be glossed over.
A writer at The Nation went so far as to analogize the use of fossil fuels with *slavery*, and asserted that the reluctance to give us fossil fuels is due to the desire of corporations to protect their assets.
I could go into a long discussion about why this is, but it is most important that people recognise that these scores are true. Second, they need to unlearn their beliefs about what they are just sure must cause this.
Only then can the question be addressed. Nothing will grow in this garden until it has been weeded.
Amy Harmon informs us her tally indicates that blacks comprise 0.7% of tenured mathematicians "at the 50 top research universities" in math. She considers that an example of "racial exclusion."
It’s a fair bet that most math Ph.Ds. got 750 or above on the Math SAT. How do blacks do on the Math SAT? Of those who score 750 or above on the Math SAT, what proportion are black? How does this compare with the 0.7% of tenured mathematicians at the 50 top research universities who are black?
An article from the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test(2006), gives us that information. In 2005, there were 244 blacks who scored 750 or above on the Math SAT. Blacks comprised 0.7% of those who scored 750 or above on the Math SAT the article in Journal of Blacks in Higher Education informs us. Blacks comprised 0.7% of those who scored 750 or above on the Math SAT, and also comprised 0.7% of tenured Math faculty members at top research universities.
Looks to me as if there is no racial exclusion at all in doctoral level mathematics. On the contrary, Math SAT scores and blacks as math professors track very well.
In addition, this article has been available on the Internet for over a decade. One would hope that Amy Harmon, after several decades of being a journalist, had the capability to locate this article. Apparently that is hoping too much for a New York Times reporter.
David Foster A writer at The Nation went so far as to analogize the use of fossil fuels with *slavery*,
I recall a rather different analogy of energy use to slaves. Someone- was it Bucky Fuller- informed us that we had "energy slaves" working for us, just like we have the equivalent of say, 100 horses (or whatever the horsepower is) transporting us in our autos. By that view, we of the masses were not slaves but slave masters when it came to energy. Thank you David, for reading The Nation so I don't have to. Since they stopped comments for nonsubscribers- a rather capitalist policy for a magazine that hates capitalism- I don't bother much with reading it anymore.
Gringo..."Thank you David, for reading The Nation so I don't have to." Oh, I don't read it regularly....life is too short! Just happened to run into that link.
"Someone- was it Bucky Fuller- informed us that we had "energy slaves" working for us, just like we have the equivalent of say, 100 horses (or whatever the horsepower is) transporting us in our autos."
That was basically Charles Steinmetz's point, quoted in my post.
I thought it was especially interesting that the old socialists Beatrice and Sidney Webb were all in favor on the Industrial Revolution. Both Russian Communists and American New Dealers were very proud of hydroelectric dams---our present-day Progs want to tear them down.
It's in my mind that these scores for adversity indices could potentially be useful, if they were made public for scholars. In a few years we could know whether transcending adversity tends to correlate with success, because it builds character or virtues that enable you to become a good student. Alternatively, we might find that people who have experienced a lot of adversity haven't developed what they'll need to succeed in college. Or, of course, it could prove to be neutral.
My guess is that it will prove that a high adversity score is more or less as good a predictor as a low SAT score for poor performance at university. That would explain why the things they're factoring into the adversity score correlate strongly with lower SAT scores. But if they made the data public, in a few years we'd know better whether or not that hypothesis held up.
There are about a thousand reasons why this is a bad idea. Just a few off the top of my head- One, you can rest assured that new schools will pop up in not so good neighborhoods with high tuitions and plenty of security so rich kids can get the 'neighborhood' factor in their favor. Two- How does this work in a place like Los Angeles, where you have a free choice system- you can choose to go to any school you can get admitted to in the district (they just have to have a seat available, and local district residents have priority, but that's it)? The kid from a not so great neighborhood who managed to get into that STEM academy charter is going to be screwed now. Also high on the screwed over list are the people that made huge sacrifices to get someplace to live in a good school district or school zone, only to see those advantages negated by the mandarins of higher education at SAT.
As for the graph- it would be good to see it stacked on top of each other, instead of staggered up- you'd see that almost everyone falls into the overlapping areas, so the significance of the differences aren't really that big a deal.
"t's in my mind that these scores for adversity indices could potentially be useful, if they were made public for scholars."
It would be far *more* useful for research, though, if the researchers had the raw data rather than just a single number for each person, derived thru some secret and arbitrary weighting of that raw data.
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I'm too lazy to sort back through 3 hours and myriad of tweets. The link in OP still brings up the original graphic, though. And my own search turned up this--https://twitter.com/WSJ/status/1129053941415763969 --with a time stamp of 43 minutes ago.
Eric Hines
Yeah, I thought it would come down quickly. But they've kept it up all day.
Well, you're not far wrong in spirit. Here's a tweet thread on de Blasio's rejection of the Williams Pipeline: https://twitter.com/NYCMayor/status/1128845593818914816
See what Jack Dorsey and his minions think need to be hidden behind a This media may contain sensitive material. Learn more warning. Two are early on in the thread.
Eric Hines
From Mayor Bill ( E Hines link):
"Our city's message was loud and clear: we're ENDING our dependence on fossil fuels. Thank you to the Stop Williams Pipeline."
How long would NYC last if fossil fuels were cut off? Longer than a New York minute, but not that much longer.
What can you expect from an idiot who loved the Sandinistas?
"How long would NYC last if fossil fuels were cut off?"
The approach of the Progs is to assert that fossil fuels only benefit the rich and the eevil corporations. The degree to which the populations as a whole benefits tends to be glossed over.
A writer at The Nation went so far as to analogize the use of fossil fuels with *slavery*, and asserted that the reluctance to give us fossil fuels is due to the desire of corporations to protect their assets.
I responded here:
https://chicagoboyz.net/archives/42837.html
I could go into a long discussion about why this is, but it is most important that people recognise that these scores are true. Second, they need to unlearn their beliefs about what they are just sure must cause this.
Only then can the question be addressed. Nothing will grow in this garden until it has been weeded.
I could go into a long discussion about why this is, but it is most important that people recognise that these scores are true.
Not long ago, Amy Harmon published an article in the NYT bewailing the low number of blacks in elite math departments.What I Learned While Reporting on the Dearth of Black Mathematicians: My recent reporting has highlighted why racial exclusion in “the queen of the sciences’’ may matter most of all
Amy Harmon informs us her tally indicates that blacks comprise 0.7% of tenured mathematicians "at the 50 top research universities" in math. She considers that an example of "racial exclusion."
It’s a fair bet that most math Ph.Ds. got 750 or above on the Math SAT. How do blacks do on the Math SAT? Of those who score 750 or above on the Math SAT, what proportion are black? How does this compare with the 0.7% of tenured mathematicians at the 50 top research universities who are black?
An article from the Journal of Blacks in Higher Education The Widening Racial Scoring Gap on the SAT College Admissions Test(2006), gives us that information. In 2005, there were 244 blacks who scored 750 or above on the Math SAT. Blacks comprised 0.7% of those who scored 750 or above on the Math SAT the article in Journal of Blacks in Higher Education informs us. Blacks comprised 0.7% of those who scored 750 or above on the Math SAT, and also comprised 0.7% of tenured Math faculty members at top research universities.
Looks to me as if there is no racial exclusion at all in doctoral level mathematics. On the contrary, Math SAT scores and blacks as math professors track very well.
In addition, this article has been available on the Internet for over a decade. One would hope that Amy Harmon, after several decades of being a journalist, had the capability to locate this article. Apparently that is hoping too much for a New York Times reporter.
David Foster
A writer at The Nation went so far as to analogize the use of fossil fuels with *slavery*,
I recall a rather different analogy of energy use to slaves. Someone- was it Bucky Fuller- informed us that we had "energy slaves" working for us, just like we have the equivalent of say, 100 horses (or whatever the horsepower is) transporting us in our autos.
By that view, we of the masses were not slaves but slave masters when it came to energy.
Thank you David, for reading The Nation so I don't have to. Since they stopped comments for nonsubscribers- a rather capitalist policy for a magazine that hates capitalism- I don't bother much with reading it anymore.
Gringo..."Thank you David, for reading The Nation so I don't have to." Oh, I don't read it regularly....life is too short! Just happened to run into that link.
"Someone- was it Bucky Fuller- informed us that we had "energy slaves" working for us, just like we have the equivalent of say, 100 horses (or whatever the horsepower is) transporting us in our autos."
That was basically Charles Steinmetz's point, quoted in my post.
I thought it was especially interesting that the old socialists Beatrice and Sidney Webb were all in favor on the Industrial Revolution. Both Russian Communists and American New Dealers were very proud of hydroelectric dams---our present-day Progs want to tear them down.
It's in my mind that these scores for adversity indices could potentially be useful, if they were made public for scholars. In a few years we could know whether transcending adversity tends to correlate with success, because it builds character or virtues that enable you to become a good student. Alternatively, we might find that people who have experienced a lot of adversity haven't developed what they'll need to succeed in college. Or, of course, it could prove to be neutral.
My guess is that it will prove that a high adversity score is more or less as good a predictor as a low SAT score for poor performance at university. That would explain why the things they're factoring into the adversity score correlate strongly with lower SAT scores. But if they made the data public, in a few years we'd know better whether or not that hypothesis held up.
There are about a thousand reasons why this is a bad idea. Just a few off the top of my head- One, you can rest assured that new schools will pop up in not so good neighborhoods with high tuitions and plenty of security so rich kids can get the 'neighborhood' factor in their favor. Two- How does this work in a place like Los Angeles, where you have a free choice system- you can choose to go to any school you can get admitted to in the district (they just have to have a seat available, and local district residents have priority, but that's it)? The kid from a not so great neighborhood who managed to get into that STEM academy charter is going to be screwed now. Also high on the screwed over list are the people that made huge sacrifices to get someplace to live in a good school district or school zone, only to see those advantages negated by the mandarins of higher education at SAT.
As for the graph- it would be good to see it stacked on top of each other, instead of staggered up- you'd see that almost everyone falls into the overlapping areas, so the significance of the differences aren't really that big a deal.
@ Grim - yes, but you would have to use math to run those experiments.
"t's in my mind that these scores for adversity indices could potentially be useful, if they were made public for scholars."
It would be far *more* useful for research, though, if the researchers had the raw data rather than just a single number for each person, derived thru some secret and arbitrary weighting of that raw data.
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