Civic health, the sequel

It may not surprise any of you to learn that there is a strong current of paranoia in public life.  I'm not really referring to the run-of-the-mill concern that people are exercising power in shady ways and not being straight with us, since I call that more of a universal concern than a current, and in any event if it's a flaw I'm among the most flawed of citizens.

Posting late at night in discussions with my local fellow citizens, however--I'm still getting used to calling them my "constituents"--is sure to reveal some startling assumptions and suspicions.  Last night a fellow was arguing with me in a reasonably friendly tone, but exposing some pointed differences between us.  Suddenly he posted an inexplicable GIF showing someone high-fiving someone else.  Then he posted in some agitation that he hadn't meant to post that GIF, didn't understand why it was under his name, and couldn't delete it.  No problem, I said, I can delete it for you, and I think it's an example of something I've often seen happen before.  Facebook has little icons at the bottom of comment boxes, including a GIF button, and it's easy to swipe it by accident; it's equally easy to swipe one of the default options it brings up, and presto, you've posted a random GIF.  But there's also a little "..." icon you should be able to press and get an "edit or delete" button.

No, he said, you didn't delete it.  I can still see it on my screen.  (I suppose it just hadn't refreshed yet or something.)  And I can't delete it.  And besides, I didn't post it in the first place.  And I think you know what happened.  Clever.  (He repeated "clever" a few times in subsequent agitated posts.)

Hee-wacketa-wacketa.  Even if I were that much of a jerk, I said, posting something under someone else's name is beyond my technical expertise.  At this point I started disengaging, because there's no percentage in arguing with that kind of thing.  Half an hour later he was still thinking up nightmare scenarios about how I had a hacker troll on my payroll.  I wonder where you get one of those?  I can barely get my iCloud password to work from one week to the next.

As midnight approached, I was engaging with another, more stable neighbor who wanted to know why I thought sewage plants and non-point-source stormwater polluted with fertilizer, etc., were of more concern than the brine discharge from a desalination plant.  I looked up some stuff on the internet and tried to quantify some of the wastewater and stormwater volumes from the nearby city we were discussing, adding some explanation of how relatively clean brine discharge is compared to what I considered rather inadequately treated municipal discharges.  Well, the first guy interjected, that response is "supercharged with facts," but fallacious, as he planned to demonstrate at a later date.  That's me, Texan ("Supercharged with Facts") 99.  I'm thinking of making it my campaign slogan if I'm ever crazy enough to run for re-election.  My interlocutor said he was sure I hadn't written that response myself and wanted to know who my advisor was.

Don't we all wish we had an omniscient advisor we could get to craft an answer to a moderately technical argument at midnight on the internet?  I guess I do, but it's called my head, my education, and Google.  It's not dark magic.  I suppose this guy thinks I have minions to do my nefarious bidding at all hours of the night, write up little white papers for me.

In the end I complimented him on his public engagement and asked him to consider coming to Commissioners Court meetings.  I really hope he will.  If he keeps a lid on the paranoid stuff, he'll at least liven things up with some data.


E Hines said...

"Supercharged with facts" as an epithet.


Who's this guy's writer? He seems quite creative.

Two can play that game....

Eric Hines

Roy Lofquist said...

Many years ago there was a ballot initiative in Tuscon, Arizona for a new sewage treatment plant. I still remember the mayor saying "I have some bad news and some good news. The bad news is that if we don't build this plant we will be drinking untreated effluent. The good news is that there won't be enough of it to go around."

Ymar Sakar said...

If you want to surprise him, tell him a son of god is your adviser.

Ymar Sakar said...

Sodium fluoride is an industrial waste product. That was then added to public drinking water. Dentists recently had to admit the toxic effects when infsnts given sod fluoride water was at risk.

All sorts of things the deep s does not tell the public. Easy for me to find out

Assistant Village Idiot said...

I have an occasional commenter who sometimes makes very good and unexpected comments, but sometimes makes difficult ones, which seem more than a little racist - and I don't use that word lightly. I kept an eye on him, wondering whether I was going to eventually need to push back, or whether he could just be allowed benign neglect, allowed to make his statements without anyone taking much notice. He shortly thereafter made an Aspergery or OCD comment, correct me for something that I thought was quite obviously metaphorical and poetic, which he took literally. I noted it. Then a day or two ago he commented at Maggie's that 354 members of Congress, an oddly precise number, were controlled by Israel. His thinking is gradually becoming clearer to me.

You should indeed hope he comes to a meeting. Watching him and listening to him live would provide you with considerable additional information about his thinking and what it means.

In this context, I recommend the post that Bethany just put up tonight over at Graph Paper Diaries.

douglas said...

Part of the problem as I see it, is that politicians are over exposed to people with specific agendas (activists, lobbyists) and crazy (and loud) people. Over time, they're likely to get jaded and think these relatively few people are representative of their constituency- even though they are in fact highly over-represented. If normal, thoughtful, hard working people don't overcome their habit to stay out of things, and start heeding the responsibilities of their citizenship, and make themselves heard at least a little bit (and numbers will make up the volume), then they're going to get shut out of the process altogether.

Texan99 said...

I hope I'll never make the mistake of thinking that the Facebook loudmouths are the mainstream.

ymarsakar said...

Then a day or two ago he commented at Maggie's that 354 members of Congress, an oddly precise number, were controlled by Israel.

That's just like Art ful dodger over at NeoNeo's site. Although the issues are different: feminism.

People when they are hurt by various factions such as the Jewish faction or the feminist faction, of whatever brand or polarization, find comfort in distillating this fear down into an intellectual capacity level of comprehension. In other words, conspiracy land gains recruits by giving basic or simplistic explanation of why evils happen.

The fact that the mainstream tends to obey the media ordered Deep State conditioning and either not worry about nor concern themselves with fighting these factions that are harming special groups of people, further alienates those in Conspiracy Land. And of course, periodically, a harvest operation is conducted to divide and conquer those in Ufology and Flat Earthism, just to make them seem even crazier and stupid than normally expected.

I adopt a middle of the road, but not a mainstream or "normal" perspective. The facts behind various secret combinations and their deleterious effects on humanity are stringent and obvious. Much more obvious than standardization results of Mensa and high IQ society tests. One would have be willingly blind or merely incapable of crunching the facts, to be able to ignore the issues.

I don't ignore the issues but I don't fall prey to the Conspiracy Land mentality either. The Conspiracy Land mentality can be considered a combination of factual concerns, paranoia, and victimhood/fear porn. Extremism is born first from being ignored. Hence McVeigh felt isolated and ignored when Ruby Ridge and Waco 1 and abortion did not feel any empathy from his fellow humans on the street. These humans, by no fault of their own mostly, were programmed by the State to do so, but to McVeigh this was a heinous crime and needed correction. If others would not do... well, who else is available? The FBI also saw this trait and exploited it using their own plans. He later read a more subtle and focused version of guerilla warfare in prison and said that he would have done things closer to Unintended consequences if he had read that before the FBI got to him before Oklahoma bombing.

The problem with being afraid of certain entities, whether these be alien invasions, government black ops, black helicopters, or whatever you humans seem to watch due to fear pron entertainment, is that they gain an inordinate amount of rent space in your psychic, spiritual, physical, mental bodies. They begin controlling you, either directly or indirectly through entities or what Yeshua might have called demonic possession back when he was in Jerusalem.

A good example is Assistant here. The commenter obviously finds some intellectual capacity or value in the blog. And yet, they can obviously see that Assistant isn't touching the subject. Even linking official history does not work or creates lack of interest.

So this feeds the sense of alienation that Conspiracy Land generates. If even the former President of the Prometheus Society that brings the fire of enlightenment to humanity cannot be bothered or is prevented from covering the issue of Jewish cabals and conspiracies... what hope for humanity?

I speak in terms of paranoia and psychological issues not for Grim's consumption but for Assistant's pov compatibility. Certain issues have to be adapted or rotated down, in metaphors and stories, or else people easily miss the point relative to their comprehension indexes.

ymarsakar said...

Sometimes I read briefings, and it feels like the Onion or House of Ba'aal Bee.

Babylon in Hebrew when retranslated, can also mean House of Ba all, due to the two B glyphs. House of Israel (Jakob) in the House of Baal. The Israelites exiled and living in Babylon. The House of Israel in America, the House of Ba al (baby sacrifice).

Trum was also said to have Executive ordered release of human health and free energy technologies. By "free", I don't mean perpetual motion machines to the physicists out there. Think Casimir effect instead. Or quantum dirac sea zero point.

Tex might be interested, if she is involved with government contracts.

Ever wonder why Pentagon contracts are so expensive? Where Rumsfeld and the Pentagon lost that 2.1 ish trillion? Probably more by now?

Money laundering to black ops research and development projects, trying to engineer these things. They have the theory down. It's patented. Unclassified Navy patents, which are usually classified. This is strange?

No, this is as many predicted for the Deep State war. And war it is. Not a cold civil war. Just war.

ymarsakar said...

For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

Dry your eyes and quietly bear this pain with pride
For heaven shall remember the silent and the brave
And promise me they will never see, the fear within our eyes
(My eyes are closed)
We will give strength to those who still remain

So bury fear, for fate draws near
And hide the signs of pain
With noble acts, the bravest souls
Endure the heart's remains
Discard regret, that in this debt
A better world is made
That children of a newer day might remember
And avoid our fate

And in the fury of this darkest hour
We will be your light
You've asked me for my sacrifice
And I am Winterborn
Without denying, a faith is come
That I have never known
I hear the angels call my name

And I am Winterborn

Hold your head up high-for there is no greater love
Think of the faces of the people you defend
(You defend)
And promise me, they will never see the tears within our eyes
(My eyes are closed)
Although we are men, with mortal sins, angels never cry

So bury fear, for fate draws near
And hide the signs of pain
With noble acts, the bravest souls
Endure the heart's remains
Discard regret, that in this debt
A better world is made
That children of a newer day might remember
And avoid our fate

(Prepare for battle)

And in the fury of this darkest hour
We will be your light
You've asked me for my sacrifice
And I am Winterborn
Without denying, a faith in God
That I have never known
I hear the angels call my name
And I am Winterborn

And in the fury of this darkest hour
I will be your light
A lifetime for this destiny
For I am Winterborn
And in this moment... I will not run
It is my place to stand
We few shall carry hope
Within our bloodied hands
(Bloodied hands...)

And in our dying
We're more alive, than we have ever been
I've lived for these few seconds
For I am Winter-born

And in the fury of this darkest hour
We will be the light
You've asked me for my sacrifice
And I am Winter born
Without denying, a faith in man
That I have never known
I hear the angels call my name
And I am Winterborn

Within this moment
I am for you, though better men have failed
I will give my life for love
For I am Winterborn

And in my dying
I'm more alive than I have ever been
I will make this sacrifice
For I am winterborn

ymarsakar said...

I wonder where you get one of those?

The DS Cabal Dark Net.

It's where other information ends up as well.

There are job boards.

No, I have never been on it. The Divine Counsel have our own C4 and it isn't based on the internet.

ymarsakar said...

Human packs and herds are led by matriarchs, patriarchs, and small team/hand leaders.

As such, if an issue is important enough, I almost always will find that a leader will be created and people will gravitate towards that leader.

As they say, it is how revolutions and revolts and rebellions start. But it is not always how it should end.

If the issue was addressed in the beginning, if the leader was not killed, if the organization was not put to the strained edge of despair forced to fight or lose everything, then another Alternative might have been created.

The louder individuals may have a point, if others begin aggregating and agreeing, but I would place the least priority on them if their issue and charisma was not enough to draw in the crowd.

This is also why I don't ignore the Alternative Right or the anti Left, or the Leftist alliance, or any such marginalized groups as the White Supremacy KKK types. As an intel analyst, we Watch, much like the Watchers of old. We do not judge nor do we seek to attack or defend. That is not the task of an observer.

Wisdom is an onion. At the inner levels, less and less action is needed or required. More observation and data is needed.

It is the easiest dealing with a problem in a community if the community has already chosen a leader and one has organically (not astroturf bribed) grown. If that leader is destroyed or a civil war happens in that group, then it becomes a waste. Negotiate with each faction? Waste of time. They can't agree on anything, even if you could get them to agree with you. They can't do anything because they cannot come to a harmony.

This "group" can be as few as 3 people.

It's why conspiracies are composed of X people or more.

In battles, killing the leaders is a high priority because it leads to the fragmentation of esprit de corp, harmony, and chain of command. But if it means absorbing an enemy or nullifying them, having strong leaders is a benefit, not a detriment. But strong leaders often cause problems for the Cabal Deep State, the Authorities as they are called. Waco 1 is a perfect example of the State government finding a leader of a compound and creating problems that lead to extermination. Jim Jones is an example of the opposite. A cult leader supported by Demoncrats, that caused friction that led to extermination.

Killing Saddam Hussein was a good idea. Killing Qaddafi and Diem or Syria's leadership or Iran's mullahs... isn't always the right strategic choice.

JohnB said...

"Baal" is B-Ayin-B and Punic in origin; "Babylon" is B-V-L and Akkadian in origin. Wikipedia will tell you lots more, but it's clear that these are not the same word.

Assistant Village Idiot said...

@ JohnB - I agree. I have heard the other theory, but it seems stretched to make a foundational point for more distant conclusions about our present day.

ymarsakar said...

"Baal" is B-Ayin-B and Punic in origin; "Babylon" is B-V-L and Akkadian in origin. Wikipedia will tell you lots more, but it's clear that these are not the same word.

That is a translation issue and ancient Hebrew language field. While I am not a specialist or expert there, there are many who are dealing with this issue.
Two notable ones are the team here and Michael Heiser's work on Elohim/Divine Counsel re translation of Hebrew.

For those that want the short version, when the Masoretic Jews or rabbis edited the Torah (woah) with the vowel sounds, it also changed the base translation and pronunciation.

When retranslating certain passages in the bible off of Strong's Concordia and comparisons, I noticed the same issue. The root word or origin was a lot more useful than the normal accepted language that derived from translation of the Masoretic. It is not the issue about whether King James translation is accurate or not, as they used the Masoretic source text and the Septuagint. It goes back much farther than that.

I agree that they are not the same word. Hebrew words, however, are structured much like Japanese and Chinese kanji. There are "words within words". Each mark was a word and when combined together, produces interesting combinations.

Here is an example.

The Other Names
If there is such significance in Methuselah’s name, let’s examine the other names to see what may lie behind them.

Adam’s name means “man”. As the first man, that seems straight forward enough.

Adam’s son was named Seth, which means “appointed”. Eve said, “For God hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.”[4]

Seth’s son was called Enosh, which means “mortal, frail, or miserable”. It is from the root anash, “to be incurable”, used of a wound, grief, woe, sickness, or wickedness.

It was in the days of Enosh that men began to defile the name of the Living God.[5]

Enosh’s son was named Kenan, which can mean “sorrow, dirge, or elegy”. (The precise denotation is somewhat elusive; some study aids unfortunately presume that Kenan is synonymous with Cainan.)

Balaam, looking down from the heights of Moab, uses a pun upon the name of the Kenites when he prophesies their destruction.[6]

We have no real idea as to why these names were chosen for their children. Often they may have referred to circumstances at birth, and so on.

Kenan’s son was Mahalalel, from mahalal which means blessed or praise; and El, the name for God. Thus, Mahalalel means the “Blessed God”. Often Hebrew names include El, the name of God, as Dan-i-el, “God is my Judge”, etc.

Mahalalel’s son was named Jared, from the verb yaradh, meaning “shall come down”.[7]
Lamech, of course, is the father of Noah, which is derived from nacham, “to bring relief or comfort”, as Lamech himself explains in Genesis 5:29.

The Composite List
Now let’s put it all together:

Hebrew English
Adam Man
Seth Appointed
Enosh Mortal
Kenan Sorrow;
Mahalalel The Blessed God
Jared Shall come down
Enoch Teaching
Methuselah His death shall bring
Lamech The Despairing
Noah Rest, or comfort

ymarsakar said...

And I don't use wikipedia for translation disputes. It's sorta like using it to check up on what Trum and the Deep State is doing.

It is faster to read the Hebrew directly and re translate off the Strong's Concordia root meanings, even if it is still slow. Reading right to left reminds me of Japanese manga and language. It's not that strange really.