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She’s actually completely right about this. We can’t allow a secret police to exist unchallenged. The fact that it doesn’t target us as ordinary citizens doesn’t change the fact that these are masked “police” acting without warrants or identification. This is a real problem, regardless of who is in charge. Let it go now, and imagine how much worse it will be when it’s someone else’s charge.
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No, ICE isn't a secret police force and it is ridiculous to call them such. Agents are having to wear masks now due to doxing by journalists and Democrat politicians that have lead to death threats against agents and their family members. Masking is a reasonable response to such actions. The criminal neglect of our Southern border by the previous administration requires vigorous enforcement now to correct the imbalance. That is not authoritarian nor is it dictatorial. In fact, it's what the American people voted for, regardless what Rachel Maddow thinks. Furthermore, warrants are generally not required when there is probable cause to believe the suspect is a flight risk, which is the case with an illegal alien. This has been the case long before Trump became president.
I like the meme that shows Mark Cuban as a fully trans Maddow. That's funny, I don't care who you are.
Joel, you know that I hold you in the highest respect. But if a masked man came to me and attempted to arrest me, with no warrant and without showing his face or giving his name, I'm sure I wouldn't let him. Immediately we would be at the point of dying, because that isn't a thing you can submit to as a free man. You understand that, surely. How could you not? We aren't the sort of men who roll over and let ourselves be placed in chains by nameless, faceless persons who merely claim to be agents of the state.
I understand the concern but then reflect on Elian Gonzales, Ruby Ridge, the Branch Davidian compound, surveillance and arrests of parents at school board meetings, and a search warrant with shot-to-kill authorization on a former President's residence, and it doesn't seem much like the 'someone else in charge' responds to claims that restraint is being exercised.
ICE agents are not unidentified/unidentifiable when they're on an arrest operation; they have their badges visible, and they're identifiable with ICE designations on their jackets.
They have warrants where warrants are required.
They're masked not only to protect themselves but to protect their families in the face of Progressive-Democrats'--led by no less a light than Hakeem Jeffries--to dox every single one of them. A couple of ICE agent homes already have been swatted.
Your beef regarding warrants is with the law, not the agents or agency.
Your beef regarding the masks is with an out-of-control, no respect for law Progressive-Democratic Party and their politicians.
You know I hold you in the highest respect. But if you resist an ICE agent in the course of his duties, I'll be all out of sympathy.
Eric Hines
They have badges and agency clearly ID’ed, but the main reason they conceal their name and face is because of doxxing. Many of those they are arresting have ties to Central American gangs who routinely kill police or their families.
There is a proverb in Latin America: "For my friends, everything; for my enemies, the law."
These aren't our friends. They're the law, which is a power that could be pointed at us just as well as at anyone else. Right now Trump is in charge and everyone seems to feel comfortable. These powers aren't going to go away when he does, though. If this agency's remit is changed so that it's pointed at "disloyal" citizens, as it easily could be given a small change in Presidents, these powers are going to look very different.
If I die resisting such an agent, I'll ask mercy from God alone.
Grim, ICE isn't using any new or novel authority to conduct their arrests or operations. Consequently, your concern that these "powers" may be used against you when a less sympathetic administration is in office is unfounded. Warrantless arrests for flight risk suspects have already been around for much longer than the last several administrations. There is nothing new here.
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