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Did Steny Hoyer mean to blurt out that the U.S. is at war in Ukraine?

4 comments:

Grim said...

Your link isn't quite right. I think you pasted the quote rather than the URL, so I'm not sure where it came from.

We are definitely engaged in regular acts of war. Lend/lease of military materiel was an important factor in our entry to WWII, as were tariffs that cut off Japanese steel. Blockades are actual acts of war, but these other policies are right on the border, as is funding the Ukrainian war effort to the hilt like we are.

The provision of intelligence that is being used to sink Russia's warships and kill her generals is also probably over the border, but certainly not a peaceful act. Every political figure we have, nearly, has traipsed over there to appear with Zelensky, praise him, and pledge our support and friendship.

Congress hasn't declared war, but if we're not at war I'm not sure exactly what we're doing.

Grim said...

Greenwald is good on this today.

"To put this $54 billion amount in perspective, it is (a) larger than the average annual amount that the U.S. spent on its own war in Afghanistan ($46 billion), (b) close to the overall amount Russia spends on its entire military for the year ($69 billion), (c) close to 7% of the overall U.S. military budget...

"What made this Democratic Party unanimity so bizarre, even surreal, is that many of these House Democrats who voted YES have spent years vehemently denouncing exactly these types of war expenditures."

https://greenwald.substack.com/p/the-bizarre-unanimous-dem-support-426

I'd say we're at war.

Anonymous said...

He certainly implied it, in a grammatically awkward way. Or at least, we are at war with someone, with Russia implied. Maybe.

LittleRed1

Christopher B said...

Democrats are always at war with Republicans, and occasionally notice when the US is at war with another country.