So when we are reasoning analogically, the thing to look for is the place (or places) where the analogy fails to hold. Then we have to see if the conclusion being drawn comes before, or after, the point of disanalogy.
For example, in today's impeachment hearings, Professor Karlan made an analogy to explain why she thought the President's conduct was impeachable.
Imagine living in a part of Louisiana or Texas that’s prone to devastating hurricanes and flooding. What would you think if you lived there and your governor asked for a meeting with the president to discuss getting disaster aid that Congress has provided for? What would you think if that president said, “I would like you to do us a favor? I’ll meet with you, and send the disaster relief, once you brand my opponent a criminal.”There are three points of disanalogy that leap out at me. Unfortunately for Dr. Karlan, all of the breaking points occur before the analogy could bear the weight she is trying to put on it.
Wouldn’t you know in your gut that such a president has abused his office? That he’d betrayed the national interest, and that he was trying to corrupt the electoral process?
1) She is analogizing to a 'quid pro quo' situation of exactly the kind that the last months of inquiry have not shown to have taken place. The closest we got to that was Amb. Sondland testifying that he had kind of understood that to be the situation, but that no one in the administration -- indeed, not on the whole planet -- had told him that it was the case. This is somewhat like a prosecutor who has failed to prove that a wrongful killing has happened trying to convince the jury with an analogy to a murder. "Wouldn't it be wrong if it had been murder? Wouldn't you know in your gut that was wrong?"
2) A President of the United States has a formal duty to provide disaster relief to Texas or Louisiana that is much stronger than the analog case, treating a foreign country. Even if you want to argue that the President had a particular duty to provide this aid, since Congress had apportioned it, the duty is of a different kind. To refuse to help Americans in need would be a basic betrayal of loyalty in a way that pressuring a foreign government is not.
3) Her 'brand him a criminal' is disanalogous to 'open a formal investigation on this apparently corrupt action, working with the Attorney General as is in accord with our formal treaty governing such investigations.' It's not the same thing at all. The one thing is slanderous, perhaps; the other, given the strong appearance of corruption in the Hunter Biden matter, is a perfectly reasonable exercise of constitutional power by the duly elected officer charged with exercising that power.
It's a pretty sad spectacle. I hope she's a better professor about matters where she is less passionate. Passion is the enemy of reason as we all know, and as Professor Turley rightly pointed out in a far better set of testimony.
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Two similar statements "All models are wrong, but some are useful," and "All metaphors limp."
The same features jumped out at me, especially the last one, which seems not merely an error in thinking but a dishonest attempt at changing the subject.
I have wondered how much of this overreading of the president's actions are projections of what they believe such things (wink, wink, nod, nod) always mean.
Virtually ALL politicians make decisions & take actions partly for reason of reelection. If a Congressman supports a defense bill while having knowledge that it will require a new contractor facility in his district, is he thereby taking a bribe?
I'm always amazed that some of the same people who claim that the Biden family corruption evident in the Burisma directorship is a 'discredited conspiracy theory' are usually the same people who profess that 'investigate corruption in the Ukraine' translates to 'dig up dirt on Joe Biden'. Seems like they think there's a connection between the two that's independent of Trump.
Seems like they think there's a connection between the two that's independent of Trump.
You're right - the connection exists in their minds, independent of inconvenient evidence to the contrary (or just lack of evidence, period) :p
*running away*
Karlan has embarrassed the legal profession throughout this burlesque with her constant, overtly emotional artificial dudgeon and the steadfastness of her borderline hysteria.
She's acted on that: "You can call a child Baron, but that does not make him one."
Truly shameful.
Eric Hines
Karlan: Petty and immature.
My father was a logical, step by step analytical guy.
Sort of have to be, working with jet engines. He always stressed logic and reason in discussion.
I will never forget, toward the end of his life, his acceptance of the total irrelevance of logic and reason in political life, and his statement it does not mean a thing, to the effect of "he who screams and wails the loudest gets their way". He was right. The corollary ,of course, a rifle screams louder than anything else. Hence, Mao's statement.
These people do not care if they lie, if they cheat, if they kill. They care not for your approbation nor your criticism. They care not for ANY outcome, as long as they control the outcome. Their followers will drink any koolaid handed to them. Might as well try to teach a toad trig. They will not change, they will not stop, until they are stopped.
(BTW, the Jonestown metaphor is apt,in light of the Jim Jones backstory.)
Might as well try to teach a toad trig.
Toads do, though, understand ballistics. Notice the general accuracy of their hops.
Progressive-Democrats, not so much, unless their...ideology...has it by algorithm.
Eric Hines
Her analogy is odd in another way: the outrage in her story would be felt by the Texans or Louisianians who hoped they would get some free money. In the actual "crime" alleged, the similarly aggrieved people would be the Ukrainians. Do we really impeach Presidents because they disappoint Ukrainians looking for free stuff?
Turley was excellent, and I thought Rep. Ratcliffe was quite good, but alas, both were far too unspectacular to make it on the news coverage for any substantial amount of time.
As I have written, we will crack open the dark bin of human secret cabals even if it kills the rest of X.
Oh, maybe I didn't write that exactly. But generally speaking, Justice will fall, right about before the Heavens fall.
She's acted on that: "You can call a child Baron, but that does not make him one."
Hold my milk, Earl.
Hold my sword, King.
Hold my teleport transit card, Yeshua/Yahoshua/Yahuah (Savior)
Before I forget, Raven: That is why Rubin's interview of Marianne Williamson was so stellar. Conservatives, libertarians, talking with progressive/liberals, is strange. But perhaps it works because everyone actually believes what the ysay they believe, vs fake liberals. You are fake news, started when people began to be fake liberals. Or fake priests.
Re: “unspectacular” —
He’s a professor of constitutional law. Spectacle shouldn’t be his thing. He said their account of bribery was unsupported constitutionally and had been rejected by the Supreme Court; and their account of obstruction was an abuse of power _by them_. That should be sufficient.
Re: “unspectacular” —
He’s a professor of constitutional law. Spectacle shouldn’t be his thing....
Douglas is right though. All the NLMSM is interested in is spectacle, and insultingly to our intelligence, they peddle that because that's what they think is all we want.
Sadly, many of us do, but worse, it's what we're stuck with because, NLMSM projection again, it's what they think all of us want.
Thus: the spectacle of three professors occupied the news while the staid rationality of one professor was ignored.
Eric Hines
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