Marines Testify Against Antifa

I guess their haircuts made them look like 'fascists' to some.
According to the Marines’ testimony, they were touring historical landmarks near Front and Chestnut streets when suspect Thomas Keenan approached them. Godinez testified that Keenan asked them “Are you proud?,” to which Godinez remembers responding “We are Marines.” Torres said that he remembers Keenan asking “Are you Proud Boys?,” an allusion to one of the alt-right groups behind the rally, and one that Torres said he didn’t understand. “I didn’t know what Proud Boys meant,” he said.

Whatever Keenan said, both Marines testified that Keenan, Massey, and approximately ten other people — men and women, some masked and some unmasked — then began attacking them with mace, punches, and kicks, and calling them “nazis” and “white supremacists.”

On the stand, Godinez said that he was “bewildered” by being called a white supremacist and immediately cried out, “I’m Mexican!” After that, as the attack continued, both men said that members of the group, including Keenan, repeatedly used ethnic slurs, including “spic” and “wetback,” against the Marines. (There was no testimony that Massey used any such language).
Relevant to yesterday's post about tools and equality, these Marines were at a substantial disadvantage because Marines today are small. Marines today are small because they adopted the Body Mass Index (BMI) standard some years ago, requiring Marines to maintain an "ideal" body weight even though professional athletes who engage in substantial strength training are often rated "overweight" or "obese" according to BMI. The Pentagon has been revising that policy, but its effects have been lasting, with only 2% of Marines qualifiying as 'overweight' under BMI. (Current policy allows high performers to be exempt from the fat/weight standards.)
Torres testified that Massey punched him “full force” repeatedly while he held his hands up above his face to protect himself, and the prosecutor used the opportunity to make it clear that while both Torres and Godinez are Marines, the suspects are significantly larger in both height and weight than the two of them.
Some of the Marines I knew back in the 1990s, before they went to the BMI standard, a small gang of no more than 10 or 12 would have hesitated to mess with those guys. Maybe we can get back to that.


Gringo said...

In Berserkeley, these Antifa thugs would get acquitted. In Philadelphia,they might not get acquitted.

raven said...

IN Marine speak- Fuck that shit- just authorize them to carry personal sidearms off duty. A Maori fighting adze would suit well.

Assistant Village Idiot said...

The BMI problem is an excellent example of people believing a theory over what they can see in front of them.

Ymarsakar said...

Marines aren't taught how to kill civilians, sheep, wolves, and other animals bare handed. That's a skill set martial artists, berserkers, and other non regular forces use more.

BMI is another one of those diet stupidities scientists in white lab coats conned the nation int paying for. They got the loot and everybody else got the cra consequences as usual.

Body weight is just another tool in the box. Internal principles of action, aka tai chi or Eastern arts, focuses the weight into a killing tool. How much force does it take to poke a finger through someone's chest and heart? How much force does it take to poke a need through someone's chest into their heart?

Even Westerners should understand the difference of yin yang separation there.

Take your 100 pounds, 200 pounds, 400 pounds, focus all of it into a single line of linear force, smash it 10 feet past someone's vital spots like their throat or eye, and Mission Accomplished. Go call the ambulance, because they need to be here to pick up the body bags.

Not all that hard, even for people wasting months in boot camp training who knows what these days. The human body is amazing fragile to specific laser force and not so fragile towards frontal general force. It's the difference between being hit by a nerd bat of foam, and being hit by a crow bar that has an edge comparable to an unsharpened sword. Look up what unsharpened swords can cut through (if the user is half way competent even).

Ymarsakar said...

Disabling and crippling people was generally considered higher skill required and also more peaceful.

That's because killing people in the old days was easier and safer. Breaking their joints and holding them, was more dangerous tactically but it avoided blood vendettas later on, which was strategically safer and better.

Which is to say, the US military does not train its people to peacefully disarm and disable its civilian sheep livestock. That's not generally their mission profile. Not that the police's mission profile does much of that either.

Even if less than 20 year veteran Marines had the tools in the toolbox to get the job done, they would first need someone to unlock their conditioning and order them to do so. Otherwise they are mentally frozen in a turtle defense, much like a beaten spouse. They cannot use what they know how to do because they are conditioned to only use military lethal force in a team, against hostiles, and when ordered to fire.

This is the difference, key, between a soldier of the State, and a random roaming ronin warrior that goes berserker whenever he feels like it.