Courts to "Install" Clinton?

As far as I know, nobody is even thinking about filing a suit along these lines -- but the thought has crossed the mind of a writer at the Huff Po. This approach would not end well. least one court decision suggests there is some federal authority to invalidate the election outcome after the fact.

In 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court let stand the ruling of a federal district judge in Pennsylvania that invalidated a state senate election and ordered the vacancy be filled by the losing opponent.

The Pennsylvania state senate held a special election in November 1993 to fill a seat that had been left vacant by the death of the previous democratic senator, and pitted Republican Bruce Marks against Democrat William G. Stinson for the spot. Stinson was named the winner, but massive fraud was later uncovered that resulted in litigation.

Two of the elected officials who testified in the Pennsylvania case said under oath that they were aware of the fraud, had intentionally failed to enforce laws, and hurried to certify Stinson the winner in order to bury the story. The narrative recalls the Washington Post’s revelation that Republican Mitch McConnell was aware of the CIA’s conclusion that Russians had intervened and opted to do nothing.

In February 1994, after Stinson had already taken office, a federal judge ordered he “be removed from his State Senate office and that [his opponent, Bruce Marks] be certified the winner within 72 hours.”

Stinson appealed to the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, but ultimately, this was the first known case in which a federal judge reversed an election outcome. In January 1995, the U.S. Supreme Court allowed the ruling to stand.
On what basis could a Federal court claim the power to decide who would run a co-equal branch of government? Or do we not recognize any limits on Federal courts now?

We're getting into dangerous waters.


raven said...

So for the sake of discussion, say the courts or the president decide to declare the election results invalid. What happens then? What do we do?

Grim said...

I'm guessing we meet in D.C. for a personal discussion with our government officials.

Anonymous said...

The recent posts are all together describing a multi-prong issue. "So what happens now?" lays ground work for claiming fraud and lays a very wide net of blame including enemy action. "Stop parodying yourself" paints Trump supporters as evil. This article is encouraging "the authorities" to "do the right thing".

Submit that the current media is "but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and is heard no more. It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

(I haven't even read Shakespeare, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...)

With how they correctly reported and understood BrExit and Trump's victory, how they speak well of Fidel Castro, how the economy is doing splendidly thanks to Pres. Obama, etc. We would be fools to doubt them.

So... yes there's a problem, but I think the environment is trending in our favor, for at least this short time. Now may be the best time I've seen in years to work this out.

-Stc Michael

Grim said...

In the last 24 hours, the rhetoric on the left has gone from "This proves that Trump benefited from Russian propaganda" to "this suggests that Trump is a Russian puppet" to "this proves that the GOP leadership, which was briefed on this and did nothing to stop it or speak out against it, is guilty of giving aid and comfort to the enemy in order to win an election."

Treason, in other words -- a capital crime. And not just Trump now, but the Republican leaders in Congress.

This is the same group of people that, two months ago, thought that it was proof of tyranny and a despotic heart to threaten to "lock her up," even if she were convicted by a court following conviction by a jury of her peers. Only tyrants jail political opponents, so they told us.

Things are moving very fast. He's not even the President yet, and we've already gotten to treason -- for him and all his political allies.

Anonymous said...

You are correct. I think it is part of their projection complex. They are involved in treason and tyranny already (they ran Hillary!), so they assume their opposition must be as well. There is a reason our socialists label the "right" as NAZIs and fascists.

I think in their panic of losing that thing they worship, power, that this over reaction will strengthen the "right" and fracture the "left". All those people who voted for Trump, sometimes just to spite the establishment, won't believe it. The emotional left that just wants to be good people, or at least not be accused of being bad, hopefully won't up for this fight. My fear was the media slowly eroding support over the next few months and the "moderates" allowing the House to change in the mid-terms. To engage a fight this close after the election, accusing treason as they nullify the election on the other hand, is something else.

Trump's cabinet choices show a much more serious man than I had first believed. The media destroyed at least some of their own credibility during the election. Do we, or even the media, really know their remaining strength? Are we over or under estimating them, and how would we know? They tried to destroy Trump in his weaker position of candidate and failed. What are they going to do with a stronger positioned President-Elect Trump?

What are our goals and options if they succeed? If they fail? What is our core so we are not shaken by these winds?

-Stc Michael

E Hines said...

What are our goals and options if they succeed? If they fail?

No need to respond to them at all either way; that only legitimates their positions and rhetoric. Just do as we planned to do all along, as though they weren't speaking at all.

And keep our powder dry.

Eric Hines

Eric Blair said...

They have spoken but we do not hear their words.

Ymar Sakar said...

As you can see, Grim, your idea that the chances of civil war 2 dropping was not quite as probable as the case appears.

As I forwarded, the existence of the ALt Right and push back against the Left, merely makes the Left counter with a harder offensive. A civil war can be one side massacring the other, one sidedly, but it can also be like the case before US Civil War I, where the abolitionists started raiding and arming slaves after a long period of being perceived as cowards and weaklings by the Southern States. The Republicans or conservative patriots in the US have undergone a similar turn from pacifist resistance to the Left to full on hard line fighting.

If the Left had given up as a result, then the odds of civil war would decrease. If the Left ups the ante so to speak, then the pendulum increases in frequency.

The situation matches what I described before.

The Left is a many headed hydra which even Hercules found difficult to defeat. Wait long enoug hand they will regenerate a better plan. While they may seem like idiots, that is only their front line cannonfodder and SJW wings. Much like the world's view of America can be summed up as Hollywood sex crazed gang bangers and the individualist capitalist gun culture. The exterior is merely the exterior.