Dog Faced Soldiers, Pony Soldiers

Joe Biden may or may not have been thinking of these Redcoats, as the piece suggests, but the phrase "pony soldiers" is used in Hondo to refer to the US Cavalry.  It differs, though, from "Dog-Faced Soldiers," who are infantry -- specifically the 3rd Infantry Division.  It's their Division song; I learned it from them while working with their headquarters element in 2007 because their commanding general made them stand up and sing it to him every morning at the Battle Update Briefing.



That commanding general was Rick Lynch, who seemed very much to be attempting to reprise the role of George Patton. In spite of his cigar-chomping theatrics 3ID had a tremendous run of success during his time there, during which the entire division -- not just the headquarters but all four brigades -- were deployed from Anbar to the Mada'in, and from Baghdad to Al Hillah. The counterinsurgency campaign in that period saw violence drop by about ninety percent.

I guess he went on to become a Lieutenant General before he retired, which is pretty good. He once gave me one of his "challenge coins," which just for fun I dug out tonight to show you.


The dog is "Rocky," created by Walt Disney personally and donated to the division in what I imagine was a fit of patriotism. The coin has a notch in it, I was told, "Because Rocky took a bite out of it."

"Nous Resterons La" is a line from the First World War's deployment of the Third Division as a part of the American Expeditionary Force. It means "We'll stay here," which at the Second Battle of the Marne is just what they did.

I don't know how you get the two concepts confused, although I spent some time with various 1st Cavalry units too and it could be that they're more alike than either of them would like to admit.  Maybe Joltin' Joe can throw in a "Buffalo Soldier" reference next time just for good measure. 

UPDATE:  A reasonable comment on the 3ID page's apology for the Dog Face Soldier song:
The trouble with “honest” soldier songs is that they are generally unprintable parodies of other songs, while the trouble with “official” soldier songs is that they are generally phony-sounding, slick productions which completely lack spontaneity. At the beginning of World War II there was a need for a soldier song which could be accepted by the mud-slogging foot soldiers as well as civilian concert audiences – a song in the happy medium between “honest” and “official”.
Fake but accurate, I think we call that these days.

7 comments:

E Hines said...

What most irritated me about that exchange was that Biden called his questioner a lying dog-faced pony soldier.

As though it's somehow dishonorable to be a dog face or a pony soldier.

It's also not the first time Biden has called a questioner a liar just because he didn't like the question.

Eric Hines

Grim said...

We used to treat calling someone a liar as justifying a challenge to a duel to the death. If we restore that norm we'll get back to some better manners, though we'll have to work out some problems for re-introducing dueling into contemporary society.

Christopher B said...

I vaguely remember a reference to 'Chyenne Dog Soldiers' in the John Wayne flick 'She Wire A Yellow Ribbon' which Google says were a real thing. That's the first thing I thought of when I heard about Biden's outburst.

He certainly follows Nathan Brittles' famous advice. Don't apologise, it's a sign of weakness.

MikeD said...

My gut instinct was that he meant "lying dog-faced phony soldier", but his dentures got in the way." But regardless of what he said or tried to say, it doesn't make a lick of sense in any context. He had asked a woman had she ever been to a caucus, and when she answered in the affirmative that's when he called her that. I literally cannot wrap my mind around the thought process there. And also, why even doubt that she had been? It's not like he had asked if she had ever performed some kind of rare or heroic act.

Anonymous said...

Christopher, one of my graduate school profs was/is a Cheyenne Dog Soldier. He assists with dances and acts as security, gently keeping on-lookers from breaking the rules or getting in the way. Larger, younger Dog Soldiers deal with the real trouble. At the moment, you have to have served honorably in the US military in order to start to qualify, so the requirements are a wee bit different than they were Back In The Day.

LittleRed1

Texan99 said...

It was creepy the way he treated calling her a liar like a joke, and both she and the audience seemed to be giggling nervously along with him. The dog-faced pony-soldier part sounded merely addled, but the liar part was an undisguised insult. People really don't mind if he calls inconvenient questioners "Fat" and "Liar"?

ymarsakar said...

American worship of this corrupt Demoncast that need to die and or go away, is pretty predictable. This is why Americans are treated as slaves by the Deep State. Because they are.

Same for KKK Virginia Senators. Same for Ted Kennedy. Same for... it goes on and on.