First of all, we don’t even issue a “proof of citizenship” ID. The closest thing is a passport, which most Americans don’t have. If you’re in the Global Entry trusted travelers’ program, they issue an ID that mentions your citizenship too, but that’s by-the-way to the point of the program. Even fewer Americans are enrolled in that than are holders of passports.
Your driver’s license definitely avoids mentioning your citizenship. Real ID compliance means that it’s on file somewhere, but not in a way you can carry around with you. A voter registration card should be proof of citizenship, but we all know very well that it isn’t.
So is the idea that we should all be carrying notarized copies of our birth certificates everywhere? What is she even talking about?
Second, I’m old enough to remember when movies and television regularly featured police who demanded “your papers, please,” to people walking down the street. Sometimes these were East Germans; sometimes they were Soviets. Sometimes they were Nazis. In Casablanca, they were the police of occupied French territories collaborating with the Nazis.
What they never were was the good guys. Even as the bad guys, they never wore masks.
This isn’t how America works. However, how about a demonstration of American-ness in lieu of the nonexistent identification cards? I have a very clear idea of how an American would respond to such a demand. Nothing is more American than telling a government agent to stuff it and to mind their own business. Defiance of overreaching authority in the name of liberty should be sufficient evidence; if such a one isn’t an American, at least they have the right makings to be.
C'mon, Grim, you're better than this. Linking an X>/b> post whose poster is making a bald, unsubstantiated allegation and then tossing in the "Nazi" slur as if that proves his point?
ReplyDeleteA 30 second Startpage search on the "prepared to provide proof of citizenship" turned up this bit of dishonesty providing the "quote:" https://x.com/GrabienMedia/status/2011843099387916724
Playing the 15 second video at that link reveals the quoted phrase being the core of the videographer's conclusory question to Noem. Noem's response was in every situation, we're doing targeted enforcement. If we are on a target and doing an operation, there may be individuals surrounding that criminal that we may be asking who they are and why they're there and having them validate their identity. That's what we've always done in asking people who they are so that we know who's in those surroundings. And if they are breaking our federal laws, we will detain them as well until we run that processing..
Not a word, not a syllable, not a minim about asking for proof of citizenship. Just what police--including Minneapolis' and Minnesota's, when Frey and Walz permit them to function--do in every situation: ask for identification. Not proof of citizenship.
Eric Hines
The link was provided by a friend, but this seems to be the exchange. She was asked about carrying proof of citizenship, which could be part of any confusion.
Deletehttps://www.nbcchicago.com/video/news/national-international/noem-proof-of-citizenship/3876717/
Yes, the second questioner in your NBCChicago link had the conclusory question to which Noem answered. A dishonest question by the questioner followed by an honest answer that had nothing to do with demanding proof of citizenship.
ReplyDeleteEric Hines