Dad29 sends this news of an FBI victory over a Nazi motorcycle club — one that they themselves founded.
Apparently, someone in the FBI had the idea of merging a domestic terrorism case with a biker case. Killian planted the idea in Kreis’s head to start a neo-Nazi motorcycle club, the 1st SS Kavallerie Brigade Motorcycle Division—named after a horse-mounted unit of Nazi Germany’s Waffen-SS….
So they couldn’t get the Outlaws MC to have anything to do with this. They clearly want there to be Nazi MCs. I guess they watch old movies where the bikers wear Nazi emblems, without grasping that they meant something different by them. They had these things as war trophies, either their own or from friends who passed them down. They weren’t declaring allegiance to the enemy, they were counting coup and showing brotherhood with their own. Since that generation, the usage has fallen away. There is no longing for Nazi-themed clubs, which is why they had to build one.
But they want the American right to be Nazis, so they just keep believing. They convinced dude to set one up, in partnership with him, and then they had a state attorney knock it down.
“We decided to strike against the Kavallerie Brigade by bringing these heavy-duty drug charges to shut the active members down,” Foster reportedly said, bragging about shutting down an FBI front group.
Emphasis added both times.
So just remember that anyone who wants you to join them in celebrating Nazis is a Fed. Anyone who wants to talk even in theory about the potential need for bombs is a Fed. Anyone who wants to speculate about using guns to stage attacks is a Fed.
This is basically the same story as several other stories we’ve seen lately. The secret police are working hard, which may not be obvious from all the Hamas-friendly groups running around.
The FBI needs to be either dissolved or seriously reformed. That said, I don't think it is accurate to describe biker culture use of Nazi emblems as a form victorious war trophy display. They used these emblems to shock the "squares." You are correct that they didn't use these emblems to convey a belief in national socialism. However, they weren't celebrating the allies victory over Nazi Germany either.
ReplyDeleteI wasn’t around for the era in which they did. I know in Hells Angels Forever, circa 1980, they tend to describe it in terms of gifts given by brother Angels. ‘He gave it to me, so I’m going to wear it.’
DeleteBut it was before my time.
Hoffer: "Every great cause begins as a movement, becomes a business, and eventually degenerates into a racket."
ReplyDeleteMutatis mutandis the Angels--and the MKE branch of the Outlaws, the former President of which I entertained in my bar. Nice guy. VERY large (25') cabin cruiser which he 'purchased on his earnings as a machinist for a large local manufacturer'????
Not really. He's serving life in a Fed pen for racketeering and murder.
Well, that's kind of the subject of this post. Are you talking about "Milwaukee Jack" Rosga? He really did have a successful trucking business. He was found guilty of 'conspiracy,' not of actually having done anything -- same as Trump. And the evidence in the indictment was, it appears, entirely drawn from Federal agents who infiltrated the club and reported him as having said things that they interpreted as a conspiracy.
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Things like this:
"He also told a fellow Outlaw to clean his own house, meaning anyone suspected of helping law enforcement should be killed, the indictment says."
Is that what the phrase 'clean your own house' means? Apparently a jury was willing to buy a Federal agent's assertion that it was; but a jury also bought 34 charges against Trump that were bare assertions blessed off on by a prosecutor.
It's a strange case in other ways, too.
The article raises the fact that someone was seen with a long gun at the clubhouse. The police came, were allowed in, found the gun, and made no arrests. Why not? My opening guess is that the gun was perfectly legal, as most long guns are, and not being misused, as mostly they aren't.
The article also includes an interview with a police detective who tells them that Rosga didn't have much of a criminal history and had a successful business. The detective says that's probably why they picked him as national president: so the cops would have fewer reasons to investigate him. Well, maybe: or maybe they did it for the same reason our fire department does a background check on all its employees. That's normally why a relative lack of criminal history is helpful, not because it forwards a conspiracy to commit crimes.
I think the recent history of our legal system should cause us to ask a lot more questions about assertions the government makes in indictments. Even when they get jury convictions, the weight of authority plays a big role. The drama of the trial paints the undercover cops as brave heroes fighting crime, rather than spies concocting stories and trying to create crimes where they didn't already exist. Yet this story from the OP, which you forwarded to me, is clearly an example of them trying to create racist organizations where they weren't, create crimes where they weren't, and often passing on falsehoods in the course of their work.
The guy I met is named Bisenius. It is interesting to note that any reference to him, murder, Fed pen (out East), and the Outlaws has been scrubbed from the 'net.
ReplyDeleteThere IS a Bisenius who owned a yacht retail outfit.
Nothing surprises me about Federal "law enforcement," although the Bisenius thing that I recall goes back to the late '70's, when FBI was not so clearly a bunch of fakers. Rosga could very well be as clean as a whistle, just as we know that today's FBI is dirty as Hell.
Just what we need. Law enforcement which can't be trusted and elections which can't be trusted.
Man, that name! Talk about WWII Nazi/SS trivia.
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