If this were a civil case, it would be difficult to sort through the relative weight of the various contributing factors to Mr. Floyd's death. The picture is intolerably complicated by a fatal dose of fentanyl. I try to imagine how I'd view the evidence if it were myself being arrested, or someone from my own social circle that I knew and loved. Would I be thinking, "The person you're arresting is in clear medical distress; why are you so cavalier about the risks?" Or would I conclude that, if you resist arrest and act crazy and have to be restrained, then it turns out that you're dying of an OD, then it's just a slow-motion suicide by cop? Looking at it from the opposite perspective, if the defendant in this trial had for some reason forcibly administered the fatal dose of fentanyl to Mr. Floyd, then tried to argue that what really killed him was a knee on the neck, wouldn't I scoff? Wouldn't I reject the argument that the fentanyl wasn't all that dangerous, because Mr. Floyd, an addict, had such a high tolerance?
In a civil trial, the jury might be allowed to allocate percentages to the liability of the various people who created dangerous conditions, which in this fact pattern might well result in a very high percentage being allocated to the decision to swallow the fatal evidence of fentanyl. In a criminal trial, however, the jury has to resolve any reasonable doubt over whether Mr. Chauvin's actions were the effective cause of death. It can't help much that the jury will be allowed and/or instructed to take into account that there can be multiple causes of death, or that a potential fatal treatment can be considered the cause of death even if someone else (including the decedent) had contributed a cause of death that either took effect seconds before the action of the criminal defendant, or would have caused death within seconds in any case.
The only certain conclusion I can draw is that I wouldn't want to live there, and I certainly wouldn't want to serve on a police force in that city. It's a mystery how they keep a police force together at all. Frankly it's hard to see how such a broken city survives.
The defense was prepared to plead guilty to 3rd degree murder. Barr tossed that to force a trial. I don’t know why; it can only lead to worse outcomes. Whichever way this goes there will be violence.
ReplyDeleteThe Find Law article on 3rd degree murder is interesting, if (like me) you were unfamiliar with it.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.findlaw.com/criminal/criminal-charges/third-degree-murder-overview.html
In Minnesota, it still requires intent / malice. Whether Chauvin did the right thing or not, I don't think he intended to kill Floyd. I could see an honest case for 2nd degree manslaughter, which involves recklessness without the intent to kill. I'm not saying that's what it was; I don't know. But if Chauvin was wrong, it would seem closer to that than any degree of murder.
From what I have read (IANAL) 3rd Degree Murder in Minnesota is a kind of odd duck. The intent of the law appears to have been to provide a substantial penalty for killing one or more people without specifically targeting them while performing a reckless or terroristic act. The classic example often cited was firing a gun into a crowd but I suppose a bomb would be similar.
ReplyDeleteMy understanding of the charging difference between 2nd and 3rd Degree is that 3rd Degree at least seems to require endangering more than one person and not intending to kill a specific individual. This was complicated by the 3rd Degree murder conviction of MPD Officer Noor in the killing of Justine Diamond, where 3rd Degree was charged even though apparently only one person was threatened. It's pretty clear that Ellis would like to get a 'murder' conviction but I also don't see how you can fit the facts of Floyd's death into the 3rd Degree Murder statute. Noor was a close reading though I think you can make a case that a firearm discharge threatens more people than a chokehold.
Thank you for noting that this is complicated. I am furious with the whole country for seemingly assuming that this was an evil, racist act. Yet I am also frustrated by the conservative press that seems to be determined to be simply contrary and working hard to find ways to "prove" that Chauvin was just a regular cop doing his job and Floyd a clear criminal.
ReplyDeleteI have read a couple of secondhand accounts of policemen noting problems with Chauvin's actions as not good practice. They believe there were places he could have and should have acted differently. However, none of the reports filtering out to me in this way through my few police contacts suggest that this was murder in any way. He acted less than optimally, and a person who might have been on the verge of dying anyway, and was making himself difficult to help, died under his watch. I repeat this is secondhand. I am no expert on police practice.
I have often thought I could be an exceptionally good juror in such cases, as my whole career has been holding judgement in abeyance, because patients, families, police, mental-health providers - all, all, slant the truth in their favor, and new bits of information can suddenly change the whole picture. Yet I mentioned this once to a friend who is a prominent trial attorney (and one-time congressman) and he laughed at my naivete. "If you really look like an honest juror, either the prosecution or the defense will want no part of you. You will be thrown out by one or the other." In further discussion, he agreed that paying attention to who threw me off would likely tell me who had the better case.
"If you really look like an honest juror, either the prosecution or the defense will want no part of you. You will be thrown out by one or the other."
ReplyDeleteWhile generally true, I think there are limits to how many jurors they can strike just because. I followed jury selection for this one somewhat, and Juror Prospect #55 (if I recall correctly) was characterized as 'a middle aged female biker who believes "all lives matter."'
That's somebody who is likely to think for herself. I can't believe that neither side found reason to cut her loose.
You're referring to peremptory strikes, which can be exercised for any reason or no reason at all. The lawyers get an unlimited number of strikes "for cause," but the judge limits the number of peremptory strikes. In the Chauvin case, though, I don't think either side ran out of peremptories. Of course, they may have let that juror through for fear that they would need one of their few remaining strikes even more urgently for the next potential juror, even if that turned out to be too pessimistic.
ReplyDeleteThe PowerLine summaries have been interesting. So far it doesn't look like defense counsel is exactly setting the courtroom on fire.
"'a middle aged female biker who believes "all lives matter."'
ReplyDeleteThat's somebody who is likely to think for herself. I can't believe that neither side found reason to cut her loose."
Hmm, I would suspect that the prosecution might think a "biker" could have some anti-police sentiments, but that's largely dependent on what one means by "biker", and that the "all lives matter" statement could be attractive to the defense.