AVI had a post the other day citing an article from the Economist about this same guy; I find this version from the Atlantic more interesting. I disagree sharply with his basic approach, although his five year estimate sounds plausible. Joseph Schumpeter made the same argument in the latter part of his life -- I had thought it was earlier, but the discussion is from 1975.
Marx, of course, thought so too -- for different reasons, he regarded the socialist revolution as inevitable.
Really, though, Nietzsche pegged this mechanism in his lifetime too. Absent God to admire, and absent divine assurance of one's dignity and ultimate ascension, human beings resent each other for their own failures. An elite that has nowhere to go be elite (and large student loans they can't pay back) is likely to resent everything and everyone they see as keeping themselves out of power. It's the way they keep from having to blame themselves.
Come to think of it, Aristotle has a bit to say about this in his Politics, too.
Yet even though this issue recurs throughout our history, and has occurred to great thinkers in several ages, I still reject the notion that Peter Turchin is putting forward. There are no general laws to history.
The basic idea Marx adopted from Hegel was that reality evolves along a set path, which is pre-determined because its evolution is logical. In other words, since each step follows logically, each step has to happen and will happen in a certain way. Thus, Marx believed he could predict the future (at least a few steps out) by understanding the logic at work. He also believed that he and his followers could bring about this future by understanding the process and working towards making the next step come true.There are no laws binding us to this future. We may get there; we may certainly get to a war over the issue of whether we get there. It is not ordained, however. We can pick a different road.That is the basic connection with revolutionary politics. Later Communists were trying to bring about revolution because they believed that capitalism (the ‘thesis’) would fall into revolutionary conflict as it impoverished most people to enrich only some (the ‘antithesis’). The synthesis position, which they called ‘Socialism,’ was something they were working to bring about. Since the violent revolution was a necessary logical step between capitalism and socialism, it was to be pursued ardently. (The Nazis, of course, are “National Socialists,” different from Communists but possessed of the same basic idea about how to proceed).
Now, the important thing is that Marx was wrong (and Hegel probably was too). It turns out that history and economics don’t follow pre-set, logically-determined paths. Countries like the UK and the US adopted different approaches to synthesizing the goods of capitalism with the harms that can follow from it. Other countries found other ways still. It turns out that it is not true that very smart people can ‘see’ the future, and thus it is unlikely that rushing into revolutionary wars is wise because you can’t really be sure of how well they will turn out.
However, you can see how attractive is the idea that smart people could ‘see’ the future and bring about wonderful changes through their brilliance and courage. For more than a century now, people who thought themselves smarter than most others around them have been enamored of the idea.
From the cited passage: reality evolves along a set path, which is pre-determined because its evolution is logical. In other words, since each step follows logically, each step has to happen and will happen in a certain way.
ReplyDeleteAnd from the OP: There are no laws binding us to this future.
The former is, of necessity, wrong, and the latter, from the same necessity, must be true, because:
At bottom, the Universe's choices are random outcomes from quantum physics: it's entirely a crap shoot which outcome of any number of superpositions get realized, and the Universe is built up from that foundation of randomness. Reality's logic is a sequence of coin tosses. Or dice throws. Or infinitely available positions on the wave form before it collapses.
Not to mix too many metaphors....
Eric Hines
So, your response raises a worthy point, which is that our understanding of physics deeply influences our understanding of metaphysics.
ReplyDeleteHegel and Marx were operating at a time when Newtonian physics was the standard. Under Newtonian physics, determinism is highly plausible and actually free will is a problem. Kant worries about it and decides that, while there’s no good scientific reason to believe in it, we have no choice but to assume that we are free when we make our ethical decisions. Insofar as it seems like a decision, we have to at least pretend that we are free to make it.
Now that we have a new physics, determinism seems implausible. But maybe the new physics isn’t right either.
Aristotle has his own physics, and his metaphysics follows from it. It’s a question he wrestles with too, deciding that at least the causal chains are confused enough that we can’t predict outcomes on earth with law like regularity. “For the most part” is as good as it gets here.
Under Newtonian physics, determinism is highly plausible and actually free will is a problem.
ReplyDeleteEven after more modern physics--where determinism seems implausible--developed, the existence of free will is a problem, at least in some circles. BF Skinner wrestled with the concept unsatisfactorily. His Beyond Freedom and Dignity tried to address the idea of free will against his backdrop of operant conditioning--up through human behavior--being the outcome of deterministic stimulus responses as informed by some variable (!) rate of random error in the responses.
Skinner weasel-worded a solution by saying humans could shape our own behaviors by managing the stimulus environment in which we live along with limits we impose on the suite of responses available. But he had no bridge from his backdrop to his solution.
It isn't only our understanding of physics that evolves from a (hopefully) more imperfect description of things to a (hopefully) less imperfect description. That subset of physics we're pleased to call psychology also varies over time, and hopefully in a fundamentally improving direction. But with no as yet known reason to take improved understandings as inevitable.
Eric Hines
A novel from Michael Flynn:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.amazon.com/Country-Blind-Michael-Flynn-ebook/dp/B004MYFULE
In the nineteenth century, a small group of American idealists managed to actually build Charles Babbage's Analytical Engine and use it to develop Cliology, mathematical models that could chart the likely course of the future. Soon they were working to alter history's course as they thought best.
Spoiler:
The original group splinters. The splinters fragment. The fragments have factions...
If there ARE laws of history just as there are laws of physics or economics, there will be people competing to exploit them.
Hari Seldon had a thought or two about laws of history, too.
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"If there ARE laws of history just as there are laws of physics or economics, there will be people competing to exploit them"
ReplyDelete...which would change those laws...
"If there ARE laws of history just as there are laws of physics or economics, there will be people competing to exploit them"
ReplyDelete...which would change those laws...
No more than racing changes Newton's laws of motion--or Einstein's.
No more than investing changes economics' laws of supply and demand.
Eric Hines
EH..."No more than racing changes Newton's laws of motion--or Einstein's. No more than investing changes economics' laws of supply and demand."
ReplyDeleteOK, a good point...notice that these laws are *minimalistic*, though; they do not by themselves predict the outcome of any particular race or any particular stock transaction.
notice that these laws are *minimalistic*, though
ReplyDeleteThat's the case, though, everywhere, including history and "legal" law.
Eric Hines
...including history and "legal" law.
ReplyDeleteMinimalist in number, too, in the case of "legal" laws, but that's straying from the topic.
Eric Hines
Mr. Hines, I feel that our current state of "legal laws" could hardly be considered "minimalistic". "ever growing and insatiable Leviathan" seems more like it.
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