Most of what I could comment on current events, I already did... years ago. Although I did not really understand all of the details or reasons. No reason to.
It was or it was not. I could share it or I would not.
As I mentioned in reply to a few topics under Grim's Washington statue thread, these wars and rumors of wars are just all the dark shadow stuff being brought up to light. It is the influence of the Spirit of Satan. By that I do not mean Heyl-El, my brother, is intentionally setting man against man. The ones who are intentionally doing so, belong to a certain order or faction. Some humans call them Luciferians, Satanic ritual cabal abusers, child pedo rings, Vatican sex abuse, Illuminati, Annunaki bloodline, etc etc.
All these labels are just subjective and limited views. And yes the internet is now chock full of it, and nearly incomprehensible, likely, to those here and elsewhere just being introduced to the "woke" or "awakened" communities.
Deep State this, Deep State that, didn't Americans just think the DS were a few rogue CIA/FBI agents? A few rogue bureacrats can create a global Pandemic 2020 lockdown? A few rogue bureacrats can create the insurgency in American cities? They can order police to stand down? Be defunded? Elections to be canceled via mail in fraud?
.... Who runs this country anyways.
In Ymar's world last few epsiodes, I proposed the thought experiment that gods can be thought of as ET advanced civilizations. In that sense, instead of SPirit of Satan, you can just call it "Klingons". Instead of the Light Gods, you can just think "benevolent Star Trek aliens".
Mentally speaking, it means about the same thing for learning.
Why do Klingons fight and make others war? Cause they like it.
It's not complicated.
It really is not.
It's not god punishing you. It's not the Most High being the dungeon master and making things difficult for you by raising the level of your enemy by 20, while you are level 13. Yes, it is difficult, but not because of the dungeon master.
Why did ancient people think in stories and parables and analogies? Because they could not comprehend it otherwise. The God Dogma of organized religion is as limiting as the Science FIction dogma of materialism or fictional stories.
But they can be useful as a kind of mental interface to translate certain things. Complex concepts can be condensed down or compressed down, into an easy to understand parable or story.
Thus we have Star Trek stories, Star Wars stories. Just as bible stories. They are all are about the same. Stories that are subjective views of true events.
And on humanity goes, continuing questioning. Who are they. Where are they. Why are they. What are they. Where are they going. Why do they exist. Is there a creator, who is the creator.
Anyways. The entirety of Creation can be considered the Source Divine, so humanity can be considered part of God. This separation and divorce has a purpose.
A fractal pattern originates from a single source that has everything, but every sub pattern has its own patterns and child formations. Divine God Source is not an entity nor is it matter. It is a pattern that is ongoing. It will fold back in on itself and return everything to Source, thus regathering all experience back to itself.
The reason why humanity does not know for sure where the Creators are, is because this was part of the experiment, on purpose. Amnesia is intentionally part of the test, because the Creator needed an experience where it did not know that it created itself. And thus through this experience of fractal expansion and collapse, God learns and grows from itself. Because what humans will be, has created the God, which went back in time and created humanity. It's like a temporal paradox.
In simpler terminology, imagine a game creator who needs to wipe his memory of the game, in order to first play the game and have fun with it. Then imagine a New Game+ where the creator of the game, thinks he is a player of the game that he does not know who created it, reviewing his previous decisions and learning from it. Eventually, after NewGame++++ is over and they remember that they were the creator, they can combine the experience of Player+Creator=Unity.
Counter: why does he not write on his own blog....
Y: when i try, the muse leaves me. Also i was told it is dangerous standing out. Easier to hide amongst the fish.
Even if i want to write something, writer block stops it. It only works when i am reading the emotions of other people.
If i focus on internal voice... something comes through. Too powerful and incomprehensible for even me to grasp let aline write about. It would need to be trance channeling. What ancient bible authors called as even saul prophesying. It was a specific kind of talking or singing.
A new update to an old conspiracy. I had floated the concept that these various Cali fires were weapon tests by the Deep State.
While that hasn't come out into the public yet, something else did.
Is P and E just guilty of incompetence or are they just the cover up fall guy?
The evidence is collected just as with2020. Personal videos of stuff that does not fit the narrative. Ever green and pine trees, no damage, while cars next to htem have melted glass and plastic.
Only when evil is forced into the light can we defeat it. Only when they can no longer operate in the [shadows] can people see the truth for themselves. Only when people see the truth [for themselves] will people understand the true nature of their deception. Difficult truths. Q
This suggests that President Donald J is letting Demoncrats and others, show the American public what is really going on.
A bit dangerous, perhaps, but not as dangerous as letting these dark shadows remain unseen.
Counter: What is Ymar talking about...
Y: One may as well ask what Americans or others world over, are talking about with this Q thing. THere are a lot more of them than there is of me.
Continuing the Ymar's world chronicles of Jeremiah, with select excerpts that felt relevant today.
Then they said, “Come and let us devise plans against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come and let us attack him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.”
19 Give heed to me, O Lord, And listen to the voice of those who contend with me! 20 Shall evil be repaid for good? For they have dug a pit for my life. Remember that I stood before You To speak good [h]for them, To turn away Your wrath from them. 21 Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, And pour out their blood By the force of the sword; Let their wives become widows And bereaved of their children. Let their men be put to death, Their young men be slain By the sword in battle. 22 Let a cry be heard from their houses, When You bring a troop suddenly upon them; For they have dug a pit to take me, And hidden snares for my feet. 23 Yet, Lord, You know all their counsel Which is against me, to slay me. Provide no atonement for their iniquity, Nor blot out their sin from Your sight; But let them be overthrown before You. Deal thus with them In the time of Your anger.
------------------------ Hear me, O Lord, and listen to the voice of my adversaries. 20 Should good be repaid with evil? Yet they have dug a pit for my life. Remember how I stood before you to speak good for them, to turn away your wrath from them. 21 Therefore deliver up their children to famine; give them over to the power of the sword; let their wives become childless and widowed. May their men meet death by pestilence, their youths be struck down by the sword in battle. 22 May a cry be heard from their houses, when you bring the plunderer suddenly upon them! For they have dug a pit to take me and laid snares for my feet. 23 Yet you, O Lord, know all their plotting to kill me. Forgive not their iniquity, nor blot out their sin from your sight. Let them be overthrown before you; deal with them in the time of your anger.
These psalms, apparently, were written when Jeremiah was in great distress contending against enemies, friends, close ones.
He was restricted with such enmity and darkness that he began channeling the dark vengeance, as he interpreted it, and requested that such manifest reality be given to Israel. THis was not God's punishment, but Jeremiah using his powers to request a certain timeline or fate for Israel. And as with Balam, it happens.
Priests and prophets are mouth pieces for their gods. But in other ways, they also constrain their gods.
Everything Jeremiah requested, was given. Ask and ye shall receive, if you are worthy.
But could he have dampened the suffering if he wished, did he know this art?
This is the danger of religion, that it even makes the mouth pieces of gods, constrained into certain ways of thinking.
O Lord, you have deceived me, and I was deceived; you are stronger than I, and you have prevailed. I have become a laughingstock all the day; everyone mocks me. 8 For whenever I speak, I cry out, I shout, “Violence and destruction!” For the word of the Lord has become for me a reproach and derision all day long. 9 If I say, “I will not mention him, or speak any more in his name,” there is in my heart as it were a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I am weary with holding it in, and I cannot. 10 For I hear many whispering. Terror is on every side! “Denounce him! Let us denounce him!” say all my close friends, watching for my fall. “Perhaps he will be deceived; then we can overcome him and take our revenge on him.” 11 But the Lord is with me as a dread warrior; therefore my persecutors will stumble; they will not overcome me. They will be greatly shamed, for they will not succeed. Their eternal dishonor will never be forgotten. 12 O Lord of hosts, who tests the righteous, who sees the heart and the mind,[a] let me see your vengeance upon them, for to you have I committed my cause.
13 Sing to the Lord; praise the Lord! For he has delivered the life of the needy from the hand of evildoers.
14 Cursed be the day on which I was born! The day when my mother bore me, let it not be blessed! 15 Cursed be the man who brought the news to my father, “A son is born to you,” making him very glad. 16 Let that man be like the cities that the Lord overthrew without pity; let him hear a cry in the morning and an alarm at noon, 17 because he did not kill me in the womb; so my mother would have been my grave, and her womb forever great. 18 Why did I come out from the womb to see toil and sorrow, and spend my days in shame?
Jeremiah, ah, I so understand his position it is quite enlightening.
It's not that these events would not happen. It's that Jeremiah is channeling a timeline of a future, that he does not understand. So when he describes it, people think he is a lunatic and out to destroy Israel, the nation, or something. Because he does not have a REASON for why Israel will be destroyed. He does not know, not exactly. So he translates it in the vein of the previous prophets and religion, which says God punishes.
"Thus saith YHVH" sounds a lot different in Hebrew, those words. Because king James and ENglish is yet another translation/editor layer put on top. Even more punishment, this time from State Religion, Vatican witch hunters and torturer monks.
Jerusalem Will Fall to Nebuchadnezzar 21 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, when King Zedekiah sent to him Pashhur the son of Malchiah and Zephaniah the priest, the son of Maaseiah, saying, 2 “Inquire of the Lord for us, for Nebuchadnezzar[a] king of Babylon is making war against us. Perhaps the Lord will deal with us according to all his wonderful deeds and will make him withdraw from us.”
3 Then Jeremiah said to them: “Thus you shall say to Zedekiah, 4 ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Behold, I will turn back the weapons of war that are in your hands and with which you are fighting against the king of Babylon and against the Chaldeans who are besieging you outside the walls. And I will bring them together into the midst of this city. 5 I myself will fight against you with outstretched hand and strong arm, in anger and in fury and in great wrath. 6 And I will strike down the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast. They shall die of a great pestilence. 7 Afterward, declares the Lord, I will give Zedekiah king of Judah and his servants and the people in this city who survive the pestilence, sword, and famine into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and into the hand of their enemies, into the hand of those who seek their lives. He shall strike them down with the edge of the sword. He shall not pity them or spare them or have compassion.’
8 “And to this people you shall say: ‘Thus says the Lord: Behold, I set before you the way of life and the way of death. 9 He who stays in this city shall die by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence, but he who goes out and surrenders to the Chaldeans who are besieging you shall live and shall have his life as a prize of war. 10 For I have set my face against this city for harm and not for good, declares the Lord: it shall be given into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall burn it with fire.’
This is a very very angry god, Jeremiah is channeling. But is the anger the Divine source's, or is it Jeremiah's? Hard to tell.
How much of this anger, punishment, and fear is from God and how much is it from just human internal conflicts and emotions? Hard to tell. Apparently angels and gods, or ETs and aliens, have emotions and desires. But it might be a mistake to assume those are human desires or emotions.
My heart is broken within me; all my bones shake; I am like a drunken man, like a man overcome by wine, because of the Lord and because of his holy words. 10 For the land is full of adulterers; because of the curse the land mourns, and the pastures of the wilderness are dried up. Their course is evil, and their might is not right. 11 “Both prophet and priest are ungodly; even in my house I have found their evil, declares the Lord. 12 Therefore their way shall be to them like slippery paths in the darkness, into which they shall be driven and fall, for I will bring disaster upon them in the year of their punishment, declares the Lord. 13 In the prophets of Samaria I saw an unsavory thing: they prophesied by Baal and led my people Israel astray. 14 But in the prophets of Jerusalem I have seen a horrible thing: they commit adultery and walk in lies; they strengthen the hands of evildoers, so that no one turns from his evil; all of them have become like Sodom to me, and its inhabitants like Gomorrah.” 15 Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets: “Behold, I will feed them with bitter food and give them poisoned water to drink, for from the prophets of Jerusalem ungodliness has gone out into all the land.”
This is a serious issue. If prophets can be lied to when channeling entities... who is to say that the bible itself is not about such false channelings?
This is like parsing the truth of the sentence: "This sentence is a lie".
Temporal paradoxes may be easier.
How does one tell whether one is channeling or prophesying via the entity Bhaal (Lord) or YHVH (Lord)?
Good god, no wonder humans are confused in religion.
It's even worse, since it is non prophets, non priests, non psychics, trying to intellectually comprehend something they have never done. Like a man or woman trying to debate the merits or demerits of sex, while unexposed to such matters.
They don't know what they don't know. Shrugs.
After Jeremiah went around for years or decades being figuratively spat on (or literally), maybe he sees some vindication? But then later "laments or regrets" it when he sees the destruction, as he wises up?
Also, if adultery was such a serious offense in the sight of this one god, why would YHVH tolerate the iniquity of child molestors, Vatican rapists, and various other sexual abuses?
Or... perhaps the word "tolerate" isn't the right term. Perhaps "waiting for the day of slaughter" would be more appropriate. Or perhaps the mouthpieces of YHVH or others, have a different view of humanity, in 21st century. Perhps unlike Jeremiah, they are calling for mercy and compassion, as well as repentance, due to a change in religious tradition.
And the laws prevent murder of people, let alone prophets, far better than before. That probably helps "Reduce" the mental anguish of these mouth pieces, so they don't call down ALl Hell on humanity.
“Am I a God at hand, declares the Lord, and not a God far away? 24 Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord. 25 I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in my name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’ 26 How long shall there be lies in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, and who prophesy the deceit of their own heart, 27 who think to make my people forget my name by their dreams that they tell one another, even as their fathers forgot my name for Baal? 28 Let the prophet who has a dream tell the dream, but let him who has my word speak my word faithfully. What has straw in common with wheat? declares the Lord. 29 Is not my word like fire, declares the Lord, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? 30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, declares the Lord, who steal my words from one another. 31 Behold, I am against the prophets, declares the Lord, who use their tongues and declare, ‘declares the Lord.’ 32 Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares the Lord, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness, when I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares the Lord.
I suspect the Hebrew root word offers greater clarification. Dreams can be prophesying? Interesting.
Don't spiritualists and psychics use dream divination, as well as Apostle Peter when he became worthy?
Counter: But those are false prophets, only the bible is true.
How do we know the bible is true and if they can be false prophets, they can also be true prophesying?
a. in the ecstatic state Numbers 11:25,26,27 (J), with music 1 Samuel 10:5,6,10,13, in frenzy 1 Samuel 19:20,21 (twice in verse); 1 Samuel 19:23,24; excited to violence 1 Samuel 18:10 (= מְשֻׁגָּע mad 2 Kings 9:11); Jeremiah 29:26.
b. apart from ecstatic state, absolute Ezekiel 37:10, with לְ 1 Kings 22:8; Jeremiah 29:27; על 1 Kings 22:18 2Chronicles 18:17,7; 20:37; ׳בְּשֵׁם י Jeremiah 26:20.
2 of heathen prophets of Baal in ecstatic state 1 Kings 18:29; בַּבַּעַל Jeremiah 23:13.
That sense of Oneness, of blissfulness, blissed out. Indian mystics and new agers speak of it, sometimes, with or without the drugs.
Excited to violence... sorta like Ymar on a crazy war binge? Mad too lol!
Thus to prophesy is like the word "to walk" or "walking". There is no word for "falsely walking", that is why they had to add that prefix disclaimer in before.
Their concept of prophesying is to be in a weird altered state of consciousness, emotional highs or lows, and to channel an entity's message or knowledge.
Interesting.
THe Naked Bible. No need for fear. After all, people watch scarier stuff on X Files and Apprentice Island TV.
Most of what I could comment on current events, I already did... years ago. Although I did not really understand all of the details or reasons. No reason to.
ReplyDeleteIt was or it was not. I could share it or I would not.
As I mentioned in reply to a few topics under Grim's Washington statue thread, these wars and rumors of wars are just all the dark shadow stuff being brought up to light. It is the influence of the Spirit of Satan. By that I do not mean Heyl-El, my brother, is intentionally setting man against man. The ones who are intentionally doing so, belong to a certain order or faction. Some humans call them Luciferians, Satanic ritual cabal abusers, child pedo rings, Vatican sex abuse, Illuminati, Annunaki bloodline, etc etc.
All these labels are just subjective and limited views. And yes the internet is now chock full of it, and nearly incomprehensible, likely, to those here and elsewhere just being introduced to the "woke" or "awakened" communities.
Deep State this, Deep State that, didn't Americans just think the DS were a few rogue CIA/FBI agents? A few rogue bureacrats can create a global Pandemic 2020 lockdown? A few rogue bureacrats can create the insurgency in American cities? They can order police to stand down? Be defunded? Elections to be canceled via mail in fraud?
.... Who runs this country anyways.
In Ymar's world last few epsiodes, I proposed the thought experiment that gods can be thought of as ET advanced civilizations. In that sense, instead of SPirit of Satan, you can just call it "Klingons". Instead of the Light Gods, you can just think "benevolent Star Trek aliens".
Mentally speaking, it means about the same thing for learning.
Why do Klingons fight and make others war? Cause they like it.
ReplyDeleteIt's not complicated.
It really is not.
It's not god punishing you. It's not the Most High being the dungeon master and making things difficult for you by raising the level of your enemy by 20, while you are level 13. Yes, it is difficult, but not because of the dungeon master.
Why did ancient people think in stories and parables and analogies? Because they could not comprehend it otherwise. The God Dogma of organized religion is as limiting as the Science FIction dogma of materialism or fictional stories.
But they can be useful as a kind of mental interface to translate certain things. Complex concepts can be condensed down or compressed down, into an easy to understand parable or story.
Thus we have Star Trek stories, Star Wars stories. Just as bible stories. They are all are about the same. Stories that are subjective views of true events.
I wrote this for neir automata comments.
ReplyDeleteAnd on humanity goes, continuing questioning. Who are they. Where are they. Why are they. What are they. Where are they going. Why do they exist. Is there a creator, who is the creator.
Anyways. The entirety of Creation can be considered the Source Divine, so humanity can be considered part of God. This separation and divorce has a purpose.
A fractal pattern originates from a single source that has everything, but every sub pattern has its own patterns and child formations. Divine God Source is not an entity nor is it matter. It is a pattern that is ongoing. It will fold back in on itself and return everything to Source, thus regathering all experience back to itself.
The reason why humanity does not know for sure where the Creators are, is because this was part of the experiment, on purpose. Amnesia is intentionally part of the test, because the Creator needed an experience where it did not know that it created itself. And thus through this experience of fractal expansion and collapse, God learns and grows from itself. Because what humans will be, has created the God, which went back in time and created humanity. It's like a temporal paradox.
In simpler terminology, imagine a game creator who needs to wipe his memory of the game, in order to first play the game and have fun with it. Then imagine a New Game+ where the creator of the game, thinks he is a player of the game that he does not know who created it, reviewing his previous decisions and learning from it. Eventually, after NewGame++++ is over and they remember that they were the creator, they can combine the experience of Player+Creator=Unity.
Counter: why does he not write on his own blog....
ReplyDeleteY: when i try, the muse leaves me. Also i was told it is dangerous standing out. Easier to hide amongst the fish.
Even if i want to write something, writer block stops it. It only works when i am reading the emotions of other people.
If i focus on internal voice... something comes through. Too powerful and incomprehensible for even me to grasp let aline write about. It would need to be trance channeling. What ancient bible authors called as even saul prophesying. It was a specific kind of talking or singing.
Oracle of delphi.
Tommorow, sunday, f day, solar eclipse.
ReplyDeleteAs if the world was not dark angry enough
Now we have a lens magnifying it.
Let s see what happens.
The funny thing about cabal is that the day you see the action is not when it began.
https://www.fresnobee.com/news/business/article243561627.html
ReplyDeleteA new update to an old conspiracy. I had floated the concept that these various Cali fires were weapon tests by the Deep State.
While that hasn't come out into the public yet, something else did.
Is P and E just guilty of incompetence or are they just the cover up fall guy?
The evidence is collected just as with2020. Personal videos of stuff that does not fit the narrative. Ever green and pine trees, no damage, while cars next to htem have melted glass and plastic.
Q anon posted this tweet.
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1273676937089749000
Only when evil is forced into the light can we defeat it.
Only when they can no longer operate in the [shadows] can people see the truth for themselves.
Only when people see the truth [for themselves] will people understand the true nature of their deception.
Difficult truths.
Q
This suggests that President Donald J is letting Demoncrats and others, show the American public what is really going on.
A bit dangerous, perhaps, but not as dangerous as letting these dark shadows remain unseen.
Counter: What is Ymar talking about...
Y: One may as well ask what Americans or others world over, are talking about with this Q thing. THere are a lot more of them than there is of me.
Continuing the Ymar's world chronicles of Jeremiah, with select excerpts that felt relevant today.
ReplyDeleteThen they said, “Come and let us devise plans against Jeremiah; for the law shall not perish from the priest, nor counsel from the wise, nor the word from the prophet. Come and let us attack him with the tongue, and let us not give heed to any of his words.”
19 Give heed to me, O Lord,
And listen to the voice of those who contend with me!
20 Shall evil be repaid for good?
For they have dug a pit for my life.
Remember that I stood before You
To speak good [h]for them,
To turn away Your wrath from them.
21 Therefore deliver up their children to the famine,
And pour out their blood
By the force of the sword;
Let their wives become widows
And bereaved of their children.
Let their men be put to death,
Their young men be slain
By the sword in battle.
22 Let a cry be heard from their houses,
When You bring a troop suddenly upon them;
For they have dug a pit to take me,
And hidden snares for my feet.
23 Yet, Lord, You know all their counsel
Which is against me, to slay me.
Provide no atonement for their iniquity,
Nor blot out their sin from Your sight;
But let them be overthrown before You.
Deal thus with them
In the time of Your anger.
------------------------
Hear me, O Lord,
and listen to the voice of my adversaries.
20 Should good be repaid with evil?
Yet they have dug a pit for my life.
Remember how I stood before you
to speak good for them,
to turn away your wrath from them.
21 Therefore deliver up their children to famine;
give them over to the power of the sword;
let their wives become childless and widowed.
May their men meet death by pestilence,
their youths be struck down by the sword in battle.
22 May a cry be heard from their houses,
when you bring the plunderer suddenly upon them!
For they have dug a pit to take me
and laid snares for my feet.
23 Yet you, O Lord, know
all their plotting to kill me.
Forgive not their iniquity,
nor blot out their sin from your sight.
Let them be overthrown before you;
deal with them in the time of your anger.
These psalms, apparently, were written when Jeremiah was in great distress contending against enemies, friends, close ones.
He was restricted with such enmity and darkness that he began channeling the dark vengeance, as he interpreted it, and requested that such manifest reality be given to Israel. THis was not God's punishment, but Jeremiah using his powers to request a certain timeline or fate for Israel. And as with Balam, it happens.
Priests and prophets are mouth pieces for their gods. But in other ways, they also constrain their gods.
Everything Jeremiah requested, was given. Ask and ye shall receive, if you are worthy.
But could he have dampened the suffering if he wished, did he know this art?
This is the danger of religion, that it even makes the mouth pieces of gods, constrained into certain ways of thinking.
O Lord, you have deceived me,
ReplyDeleteand I was deceived;
you are stronger than I,
and you have prevailed.
I have become a laughingstock all the day;
everyone mocks me.
8 For whenever I speak, I cry out,
I shout, “Violence and destruction!”
For the word of the Lord has become for me
a reproach and derision all day long.
9 If I say, “I will not mention him,
or speak any more in his name,”
there is in my heart as it were a burning fire
shut up in my bones,
and I am weary with holding it in,
and I cannot.
10 For I hear many whispering.
Terror is on every side!
“Denounce him! Let us denounce him!”
say all my close friends,
watching for my fall.
“Perhaps he will be deceived;
then we can overcome him
and take our revenge on him.”
11 But the Lord is with me as a dread warrior;
therefore my persecutors will stumble;
they will not overcome me.
They will be greatly shamed,
for they will not succeed.
Their eternal dishonor
will never be forgotten.
12 O Lord of hosts, who tests the righteous,
who sees the heart and the mind,[a]
let me see your vengeance upon them,
for to you have I committed my cause.
13 Sing to the Lord;
praise the Lord!
For he has delivered the life of the needy
from the hand of evildoers.
14 Cursed be the day
on which I was born!
The day when my mother bore me,
let it not be blessed!
15 Cursed be the man who brought the news to my father,
“A son is born to you,”
making him very glad.
16 Let that man be like the cities
that the Lord overthrew without pity;
let him hear a cry in the morning
and an alarm at noon,
17 because he did not kill me in the womb;
so my mother would have been my grave,
and her womb forever great.
18 Why did I come out from the womb
to see toil and sorrow,
and spend my days in shame?
Jeremiah, ah, I so understand his position it is quite enlightening.
It's not that these events would not happen. It's that Jeremiah is channeling a timeline of a future, that he does not understand. So when he describes it, people think he is a lunatic and out to destroy Israel, the nation, or something. Because he does not have a REASON for why Israel will be destroyed. He does not know, not exactly. So he translates it in the vein of the previous prophets and religion, which says God punishes.
"Thus saith YHVH" sounds a lot different in Hebrew, those words. Because king James and ENglish is yet another translation/editor layer put on top. Even more punishment, this time from State Religion, Vatican witch hunters and torturer monks.
ReplyDeleteJerusalem Will Fall to Nebuchadnezzar
21 This is the word that came to Jeremiah from the Lord, when King Zedekiah sent to him Pashhur the son of Malchiah and Zephaniah the priest, the son of Maaseiah, saying, 2 “Inquire of the Lord for us, for Nebuchadnezzar[a] king of Babylon is making war against us. Perhaps the Lord will deal with us according to all his wonderful deeds and will make him withdraw from us.”
3 Then Jeremiah said to them: “Thus you shall say to Zedekiah, 4 ‘Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: Behold, I will turn back the weapons of war that are in your hands and with which you are fighting against the king of Babylon and against the Chaldeans who are besieging you outside the walls. And I will bring them together into the midst of this city. 5 I myself will fight against you with outstretched hand and strong arm, in anger and in fury and in great wrath. 6 And I will strike down the inhabitants of this city, both man and beast. They shall die of a great pestilence. 7 Afterward, declares the Lord, I will give Zedekiah king of Judah and his servants and the people in this city who survive the pestilence, sword, and famine into the hand of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon and into the hand of their enemies, into the hand of those who seek their lives. He shall strike them down with the edge of the sword. He shall not pity them or spare them or have compassion.’
8 “And to this people you shall say: ‘Thus says the Lord: Behold, I set before you the way of life and the way of death. 9 He who stays in this city shall die by the sword, by famine, and by pestilence, but he who goes out and surrenders to the Chaldeans who are besieging you shall live and shall have his life as a prize of war. 10 For I have set my face against this city for harm and not for good, declares the Lord: it shall be given into the hand of the king of Babylon, and he shall burn it with fire.’
This is a very very angry god, Jeremiah is channeling. But is the anger the Divine source's, or is it Jeremiah's? Hard to tell.
How much of this anger, punishment, and fear is from God and how much is it from just human internal conflicts and emotions? Hard to tell. Apparently angels and gods, or ETs and aliens, have emotions and desires. But it might be a mistake to assume those are human desires or emotions.
Lying Prophets
ReplyDelete9 Concerning the prophets:
My heart is broken within me;
all my bones shake;
I am like a drunken man,
like a man overcome by wine,
because of the Lord
and because of his holy words.
10 For the land is full of adulterers;
because of the curse the land mourns,
and the pastures of the wilderness are dried up.
Their course is evil,
and their might is not right.
11 “Both prophet and priest are ungodly;
even in my house I have found their evil,
declares the Lord.
12 Therefore their way shall be to them
like slippery paths in the darkness,
into which they shall be driven and fall,
for I will bring disaster upon them
in the year of their punishment,
declares the Lord.
13 In the prophets of Samaria
I saw an unsavory thing:
they prophesied by Baal
and led my people Israel astray.
14 But in the prophets of Jerusalem
I have seen a horrible thing:
they commit adultery and walk in lies;
they strengthen the hands of evildoers,
so that no one turns from his evil;
all of them have become like Sodom to me,
and its inhabitants like Gomorrah.”
15 Therefore thus says the Lord of hosts concerning the prophets:
“Behold, I will feed them with bitter food
and give them poisoned water to drink,
for from the prophets of Jerusalem
ungodliness has gone out into all the land.”
This is a serious issue. If prophets can be lied to when channeling entities... who is to say that the bible itself is not about such false channelings?
This is like parsing the truth of the sentence: "This sentence is a lie".
Temporal paradoxes may be easier.
How does one tell whether one is channeling or prophesying via the entity Bhaal (Lord) or YHVH (Lord)?
Good god, no wonder humans are confused in religion.
It's even worse, since it is non prophets, non priests, non psychics, trying to intellectually comprehend something they have never done. Like a man or woman trying to debate the merits or demerits of sex, while unexposed to such matters.
They don't know what they don't know. Shrugs.
After Jeremiah went around for years or decades being figuratively spat on (or literally), maybe he sees some vindication? But then later "laments or regrets" it when he sees the destruction, as he wises up?
Also, if adultery was such a serious offense in the sight of this one god, why would YHVH tolerate the iniquity of child molestors, Vatican rapists, and various other sexual abuses?
ReplyDeleteOr... perhaps the word "tolerate" isn't the right term. Perhaps "waiting for the day of slaughter" would be more appropriate. Or perhaps the mouthpieces of YHVH or others, have a different view of humanity, in 21st century. Perhps unlike Jeremiah, they are calling for mercy and compassion, as well as repentance, due to a change in religious tradition.
And the laws prevent murder of people, let alone prophets, far better than before. That probably helps "Reduce" the mental anguish of these mouth pieces, so they don't call down ALl Hell on humanity.
The word "prophesy" is really strange.
ReplyDelete“Am I a God at hand, declares the Lord, and not a God far away? 24 Can a man hide himself in secret places so that I cannot see him? declares the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth? declares the Lord. 25 I have heard what the prophets have said who prophesy lies in my name, saying, ‘I have dreamed, I have dreamed!’ 26 How long shall there be lies in the heart of the prophets who prophesy lies, and who prophesy the deceit of their own heart, 27 who think to make my people forget my name by their dreams that they tell one another, even as their fathers forgot my name for Baal? 28 Let the prophet who has a dream tell the dream, but let him who has my word speak my word faithfully. What has straw in common with wheat? declares the Lord. 29 Is not my word like fire, declares the Lord, and like a hammer that breaks the rock in pieces? 30 Therefore, behold, I am against the prophets, declares the Lord, who steal my words from one another. 31 Behold, I am against the prophets, declares the Lord, who use their tongues and declare, ‘declares the Lord.’ 32 Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, declares the Lord, and who tell them and lead my people astray by their lies and their recklessness, when I did not send them or charge them. So they do not profit this people at all, declares the Lord.
I suspect the Hebrew root word offers greater clarification. Dreams can be prophesying? Interesting.
Don't spiritualists and psychics use dream divination, as well as Apostle Peter when he became worthy?
Counter: But those are false prophets, only the bible is true.
How do we know the bible is true and if they can be false prophets, they can also be true prophesying?
https://biblehub.com/interlinear/jeremiah/23.htm
ReplyDeleteThis is a great tool. One can clearly see that the word for LORD is YHVH or Yahweh.
THey have forgotten the name of the Lord and mistaken Bhaal for Lord? Bhaal is the word for Lord. What THE!?
Hebrew, like Jap, reads from right to left. Yes, confusing as the English under it reads from Left to right. Hahaha. Mind storm.
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/hannibbeim_5012.htm
This is the verb to prophesy.
But where is the definition?
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5012.htm
https://biblehub.com/hebrew/5030.htm
Check root words.
1 Prophesy under influence of divine spirit:
a. in the ecstatic state Numbers 11:25,26,27 (J), with music 1 Samuel 10:5,6,10,13, in frenzy 1 Samuel 19:20,21 (twice in verse); 1 Samuel 19:23,24; excited to violence 1 Samuel 18:10 (= מְשֻׁגָּע mad 2 Kings 9:11); Jeremiah 29:26.
b. apart from ecstatic state, absolute Ezekiel 37:10, with לְ 1 Kings 22:8; Jeremiah 29:27; על 1 Kings 22:18 2Chronicles 18:17,7; 20:37; ׳בְּשֵׁם י Jeremiah 26:20.
2 of heathen prophets of Baal in ecstatic state 1 Kings 18:29; בַּבַּעַל Jeremiah 23:13.
3 of false prophets 1 Kings 22:10 2Chronicles 18:9; Jeremiah 14:14; Ezekiel 13:17.
Ecstasy... like LSD.
That sense of Oneness, of blissfulness, blissed out. Indian mystics and new agers speak of it, sometimes, with or without the drugs.
Excited to violence... sorta like Ymar on a crazy war binge? Mad too lol!
Thus to prophesy is like the word "to walk" or "walking". There is no word for "falsely walking", that is why they had to add that prefix disclaimer in before.
Their concept of prophesying is to be in a weird altered state of consciousness, emotional highs or lows, and to channel an entity's message or knowledge.
Interesting.
THe Naked Bible. No need for fear. After all, people watch scarier stuff on X Files and Apprentice Island TV.