tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post8539610751295716595..comments2024-03-28T16:58:17.705-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: How many children?Grimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-27756473739279817852011-10-02T22:20:03.951-04:002011-10-02T22:20:03.951-04:00They could be, under Aquinas' dual formulation...They could be, under Aquinas' dual formulation of natural. The first formula is what you're thinking of -- that which nature gives. The second formulation, though, is the perfection of what nature intends. The Greek here is <i>telos</i> -- if reason shows us that there is a <i>telos</i> in nature, actions to achieve it are in accord with natural law.<br /><br />So, in this case, pregnancy clearly is for the end of reproduction: reproduction is its <i>telos</i>. A Caesarian section thus could be in accord with nature insofar as it allows us to achieve that end in situations where it would otherwise be impossible. <br /><br />That's a little different from what modern Americans usually mean by the term "natural." We would normally encounter only the first sense. In that case, abortion is more natural than Caesarian sections, since abortion happens frequently and spontaneously in nature. In the second case, though, abortion is directly against nature, because it frustrates the clear <i>telos</i> toward which the natural process is directed.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-33831675114458019832011-10-02T19:11:57.622-04:002011-10-02T19:11:57.622-04:00Caesarian sections aren't natural either.Caesarian sections aren't natural either.Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02521739006999750126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-1993485577458569612011-10-01T22:32:13.257-04:002011-10-01T22:32:13.257-04:00About the same, of course.
In no WAY was the conc...About the same, of course.<br /><br />In no WAY was the conception of those children "natural."<br /><br />Once again, the Church's position is vindicated.Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.com