tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post3622962756512488238..comments2024-03-28T09:56:06.298-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: "What’s the Difference Between a Socialist and a Democrat"?Grimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-49721723790461003202016-01-07T11:11:33.179-05:002016-01-07T11:11:33.179-05:00People are misleading themselves when they think o...People are misleading themselves when they think of the Left as a political party to begin with, Democrat or Republic based or not.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-2770395977844933402016-01-06T20:42:28.101-05:002016-01-06T20:42:28.101-05:00Is this really true anymore, though?
There's ...<i>Is this really true anymore, though?</i><br /><br />There's a serious question about how democratic the Democratic Party currently is. I was talking with a Sanders supporter today about how odd it is that the party relies so heavily on superdelegates -- an elite of party loyalists -- whose votes end up being able to override the votes of popular supporters. How strange a feature in a party of supposedly small-d Democrats!<br /><br />On the other hand, it has been historically an important feature, and remains so in some factions. The union guys, for example, do not like the idea that some smarty pants thinks he knows better than them -- whether it's a corporate smartypants or a government one. <br /><br />Still, it may well be that the party's leadership and rich-kid supporters have fully transitioned to an elitist socialism instead of an embrace of democratic politics. In that case, they're misusing the words by describing themselves as democrats. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-72532612873497964042016-01-06T19:46:11.038-05:002016-01-06T19:46:11.038-05:00Well summarisedWell summarisedAssistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-1795645291266893882016-01-06T19:15:37.307-05:002016-01-06T19:15:37.307-05:00Case in point: during the Evil Bu$Hitler years, th...Case in point: during the Evil Bu$Hitler years, the Dems railed against the Senate because representation there didn't reflect the populations of each state. And they loved the House.<br /><br />But under a Dem president, the opposite is true: suddenly they want to tamp down the dangerous populism of the House :p Thank God for the Senate!<br /><br />Their enthusiasm for representational democracy seems to me to depend very much on whether those pesky citizens support their preferred policy positions.Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-25660276015053281522016-01-06T19:12:49.961-05:002016-01-06T19:12:49.961-05:00A Democrat believes that, to the greatest possible...<i>A Democrat believes that, to the greatest possible degree, power should be invested in the citizenry broadly considered, rather than in some elite. It is opposed to monarchy, aristocracy, but also technocratic systems in which judicial or lawyerly or scientific elites rule over us as our betters.</i><br /><br />Is this really true anymore, though?<br /><br />I see broad endorsements of what they consider "right action" by the federal government in the Democrat party right now, with little distrust of elites (I think the governing class are elites, yet many Democrats want to give them more rather than less power over every day Americans).<br /><br />I think they see federal intervention/control as the antidote to racism and sexism and all those other icky 'isms', and don't see much evidence that they trust ordinary people with much power at all.Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-57150106298230368262016-01-06T18:14:39.589-05:002016-01-06T18:14:39.589-05:00It is opposed to monarchy, aristocracy, but also t...<b>It is opposed to monarchy, aristocracy, but also technocratic systems in which judicial or lawyerly or scientific elites rule over us as our betters.</b><br /><br />They cannot be opposed, since they are a monarchy, a technocracy, and an aristocracy at the same time.<br /><br />Hussein Obola isn't using democratic voting. Green corporations and other Leftist cons aren't the government taking money, it's corporations setting up monopolies. Technocratic caste systems don't like Palins and Joe Plumbers in either.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.com