tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post3152271458272466413..comments2024-03-28T09:56:06.298-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: The late unpleasantnessGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-10112965684958856332016-01-24T14:38:05.924-05:002016-01-24T14:38:05.924-05:00I'll bet if we looked hard enough we'd fin...I'll bet if we looked hard enough we'd find that all our distant cousins were distant cousins. Europeans just haven't been here that long.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-61801210847117777142016-01-23T23:51:32.945-05:002016-01-23T23:51:32.945-05:00My uncle - my mother's sister's husband - ...My uncle - my mother's sister's husband - was descended from Elder John White, so you are distant cousin to my close cousins.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-45826746205060623592016-01-23T16:06:30.073-05:002016-01-23T16:06:30.073-05:00And it's the first time I've talked about ...And it's the first time I've talked about my Northern side, too, probably. I'm not in contact with any of them; when my mother died in 1959 she was already estranged from her family.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-85253661911480425222016-01-23T15:53:50.555-05:002016-01-23T15:53:50.555-05:00Now, that said, I do have both Confederate and Uni...Now, that said, I do have both Confederate and Union ancestors. They were from Tennessee, where the division often split families. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-16283670460133752842016-01-23T15:51:58.163-05:002016-01-23T15:51:58.163-05:00Gringo:
This is the first time I recall hearing a...Gringo:<br /><br /><i>This is the first time I recall hearing about your northern side.</i><br /><br />That's because it's Tex's post. The only Northern side I have is the folks who came from Scotland in the 18th century. :)Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-86694477746066885512016-01-23T15:30:57.426-05:002016-01-23T15:30:57.426-05:00Grim:
Only when both my parents ended up in gradu...Grim: <br /><b>Only when both my parents ended up in graduate school in 1944 at Berkeley did the Northern family join with the Southern. Eighty years before, their ancestors had been fighting each other, sometimes in the same battle, opposite sides.</b><br /><br />This is the first time I recall hearing about your northern side.<br /><br />My North-South parents also met in graduate school, but at Illinois after WW2 ended. My northern father's family mostly entered the US from Pennsylvania- some from Mass and some from NY- but some ended up in the Shenandoah Valley- rather like Abraham Lincoln's family's migrations. In the 1805s some of my grandfather's family sold their farms and moved from the Shenandoah Valley to Illinois, where many fought in the Civil War on the Union side. Had they remained in the Shenandoah Valley, they would probably have fought for the Confederacy or had Sheridan's forces destroy their farms.<br /><br />Which reminds me of a story from the family story my grandmother assembled in the 1950s. An uber-great uncle who fought on the Union side in WW2, took responsibility for a black soldier who had saved his live in the Civil War. My uber-great uncle took the black soldier home with him, and employed him on his farm until he died. After the black soldier turned farm hand died, my uber-great uncle wanted to bury him in the town cemetery. The town fathers refused to let a black be buried in the cemetery, so he was buried right outside the cemetery. Over the decades the cemetery expanded, resulting in the once-excluded grave of the black soldier eventually being incorporated into the cemetery. Integration, Illinois-style.<br /><br />WW2, by stimulating migration and marriages across the North-South divide, helped heal the wounds from the Civil War. My mother told me that when she was growing up in Oklahoma in the '30s, her older relatives were still fighting the Civil War. She vowed to stop fighting it. <br /><br />Cassandra, your book club story reminds me of this book club. Or is it your book club? <a href="http://civilhorizon.com/2016/01/08/i-dont-want-to-talk-about-it/" rel="nofollow">I Don’t Want to Talk About It.</a><br /><br />I wonder if Ta-Neshi Coates, whose father was a Black Panther, realizes that those who know about the fate of Betty Van Patter do not have warm and fuzzy feelings towards the Black Panthers.Gringonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-76029697799261808202016-01-23T11:19:34.542-05:002016-01-23T11:19:34.542-05:00If American culture used to have something, but la...If American culture used to have something, but lately it has been phased out, well that raises the obvious question. Who has been erasing the culture for decades?<br /><br />It's one thing to have a fashion trend that cycles over, or something lost due to technology changing society, but social media and such would have promoted friendships and alliances, cellphones would have done the same, airplanes would have done the same. Why was it not the same?<br /><br />Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-7933691634751373312016-01-23T07:40:31.935-05:002016-01-23T07:40:31.935-05:00Great photo, and great story. When I was growing u...Great photo, and great story. When I was growing up, we talked about families as friends, but I don't hear it anymore.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-56364162235026647372016-01-22T17:54:02.745-05:002016-01-22T17:54:02.745-05:00That's very interesting Tex, I know people nam...That's very interesting Tex, I know people named Keys who have roots in Kansas. I wonder if they're relatives of yours. Eric Blairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-25007790848957650812016-01-22T17:20:03.768-05:002016-01-22T17:20:03.768-05:00Well, next month we're reading "Good in B...Well, next month we're reading "Good in Bed". So there is that :pCassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-7250555900033289942016-01-22T14:58:20.344-05:002016-01-22T14:58:20.344-05:00Have you considered choosing a different book club...Have you considered choosing a different book club? :)Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-37667971957312677552016-01-22T14:34:06.599-05:002016-01-22T14:34:06.599-05:00HAVE YOU NO SHAME????HAVE YOU NO SHAME????Ta-Nehisi Coates' Bratty Lil' Sisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-14017947433775429762016-01-22T14:32:39.404-05:002016-01-22T14:32:39.404-05:00Wabaunsee was founded by Congregationalist aboliti...<i>Wabaunsee was founded by Congregationalist abolitionists from the East just after the Kansas-Nebraska Act was passed in 1854. Its schools, where Martha taught, are noteworthy for having always been integrated, 100 years before Brown vs. Board of Education. </i><br /><br />Nonsense. All of white (no, wait... "people who <i>believe</i> they are white" - I forgot that race is a fictional construct used to oppress the powerless and facilitate shallow generalizations about people based on the color of their skin) Amerikkka's success is based on plundering people of cholor and destroying black bodies.<br /><br />There are no exceptions. I proactively denounce you for spreading lies and misinformation, Missy.Ta-Nehisi Coates' Bratty Lil' Sisternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-29559558241908019562016-01-22T14:09:23.382-05:002016-01-22T14:09:23.382-05:00I like the way it describes the families as friend...I like the way it describes the families as friends. That's right, of course, but it's something we almost never say.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-48793761339856144272016-01-22T12:53:11.836-05:002016-01-22T12:53:11.836-05:00You know, I had completely forgotten about that si...You know, I had completely forgotten about that site, which I used to enjoy so much! I haven't even thought of going there for ages, and can't remember why I stopped. I think maybe I had a feed, what-do-you-call-it, RSS, and I stopped getting reminders. Maybe that's when he wandered off to Twitter.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-80470794627757154392016-01-22T12:46:26.230-05:002016-01-22T12:46:26.230-05:00Wonderful story.
Off topic, Texan99, you used to ...Wonderful story.<br /><br />Off topic, Texan99, you used to comment at "Rhymes With Cars & Girls" yes? What happened to him? Do you know?<br />I loved his blog, but then he went all-Twitter (which I do not use), and then poof, the blog disappeared.<br />Thx.ColoCommentnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-42312893284668538602016-01-22T12:39:28.042-05:002016-01-22T12:39:28.042-05:00I don't usually see the concept of family frie...I don't usually see the concept of family friends spoken much of or covered in American Hollywood, tv, or other types of shows.<br /><br />I wonder why.<br /><br />I didn't realize it was an actual thing, besides the usual blood relationships, until I saw foreign cultures utilize the subject matter for fiction.<br /><br />Family lineages never made any sense to me in the word format of the English language. Only looking at it through a tree, visually, made it have sense.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.com