tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post2510853336043229076..comments2024-03-29T03:57:26.974-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: Americans: Really Not Fans of IslamGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-32915392685516006662015-12-11T14:58:32.811-05:002015-12-11T14:58:32.811-05:00It might be a bigger problem in family law, though...<b>It might be a bigger problem in family law, though -- sha'riah can allow a man a divorce literally on demand in some readings, whereas a woman gets no choice at all. I don't see how the United States or any of the several states could accept that kind of legal disparity.</b><br /><br />They already do for Planned Profit's ethnic cleansing.<br /><br />It's not like there isn't a premise or prior law promoting the tradition.<br /><br />People like to think the law will make them fair and just. In fact, the opposite tends to happen. The Law corrupts and much of its energies are used to fight its own corruption.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-60189687801978533852015-12-11T09:13:29.047-05:002015-12-11T09:13:29.047-05:00Demoncrats are hypocrites, it would tend to follow...Demoncrats are hypocrites, it would tend to follow that they would accuse others of Islamophobia, when they themselves are the ones most shaking in fear.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-80933421579749560182015-12-10T14:22:59.073-05:002015-12-10T14:22:59.073-05:00Oh, I see it now -- you're citing the poll Tru...Oh, I see it now -- you're citing the poll Trump was using. The numbers are being questioned by a lot of people, but Byron York has a good piece on <a href="http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/byron-york-trump-and-muslims-by-the-numbers/article/2577962" rel="nofollow">Pew numbers</a> that make it look like 51% may not be out of sight of reality. If a clean majority of American Muslims are immigrants from countries with much higher percentages of support for sha'riah, getting to around fifty percent is not impossible.<br /><br />On the other hand, the poll was really unclear about what was meant. For one thing, it asked if they supported 'Muslims having a choice' to live under sha'riah if they wanted to do so. You'll get a lot higher 'yes' answers if you ask if people should have a choice on X if they want than if you ask if people should have to do X. That's human nature.<br /><br />The other thing is that 'having a choice' could mean a lot of different things. It could mean 'a choice to ignore US law and be bound only by sha'riah,' which would be a huge problem. Or it could mean 'setting aside the Constitution in favor of sha'riah' which is an even bigger problem. But it could also mean 'having a choice to have business deals arbitrated in a sha'riah court,' or 'having the choice to opt to have family law matters handled in a sha'riah court,' which might be less problematic. Choice of law is pretty standard as a feature of American contracts, and some religious people have long opted to have arbitration by local religious leaders they trust.<br /><br />In fact, you can see why that might seem like a good decision in some places. Would you rather go downtown to the Chicago court run by a judge appointed by the local machine -- or agree that, if there's a dispute, you and your partner will let Father Tom settle it, a guy you both know and trust, and whom you think will arbitrate anything with an eye towards being fair to everyone? <br /><br />It might be a bigger problem in family law, though -- sha'riah can allow a man a divorce literally on demand in some readings, whereas a woman gets no choice at all. I don't see how the United States or any of the several states could accept that kind of legal disparity. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-59574299472087001272015-12-10T13:15:46.614-05:002015-12-10T13:15:46.614-05:00You can do the math in several ways, I suppose. ....You can do the math in several ways, I suppose. .27% of the total military from a population that is ~2% is quite high -- I believe the figure for the general population is only around ~1.5%.<br /><br />If you want to pull the hard numbers on servicemembers v. terrorist shooters/bombers, you'll find that servicemembers come out way on top both in real numbers and as a percentage of American Muslims. <br /><br />As for 50% supporting the implementation of sha'riah, I'm not clear on where that figure is coming from or to what it applies -- Muslims worldwide? Syrian refugees? American Muslims? Is this support for living in accord with sha'riah within the American system (e.g., to not drink alcohol and try to sign business contracts that will be adjudicated in sha'riah court)? Or is it support for replacing the Constitution with sha'riah? Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-10349016606254118722015-12-10T13:03:52.134-05:002015-12-10T13:03:52.134-05:00no less representative? 00.27% of the military? ...no less representative? 00.27% of the military? When some 50% of Muslims say they would support the implementation of Sharia, I am not sure that is correct.ravennoreply@blogger.com