tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post1733959735005317621..comments2024-03-28T16:58:17.705-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: Grave ConcernsGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-88503055875371984692021-05-10T15:37:22.467-04:002021-05-10T15:37:22.467-04:00"Tells you a lot about data security by the g..."Tells you a lot about data security by the government all by itself."<br /><br />The new story out of the audit is that the county can't give the audit access to the stuff anyway, because the county never had it in the first place. The whole system -- with all its administrator passwords and electronics -- was in the control of the Dominion corporation, not the elected government. <br /><br />If that's true, it's quite a finding: there was no election at all under those circumstances, I would argue, because the appropriate officials were not actually overseeing it. You can't outsource democracy to a corporation, nor delegate constitutional powers to one. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-62688028329465458782021-05-08T19:37:36.361-04:002021-05-08T19:37:36.361-04:00It's a wonder that no one thought that informa...It's a wonder that no one thought that information like the law enforcement or citizen data should be on special servers before this issue came up. Tells you a lot about data security by the government all by itself.douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03241790925053112959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-20029485563028725432021-05-07T15:50:49.491-04:002021-05-07T15:50:49.491-04:00Very good points, and I don't think I care to ...Very good points, and I don't think I care to defend what the county is doing. But, even so, there might be good reasons for doing it if they really think that data might make its way into public knowledge. That was my point. Regardless of whether they have a good reason, it doesn't trump a subpoena.<br /><br />Also, they could just be hiding something.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-76368607758392863392021-05-07T12:41:17.568-04:002021-05-07T12:41:17.568-04:00Yes, if the subpoena was designed to produce a pub...Yes, if the subpoena was designed to produce a public release of that information; however, it's fairly clear that the intent is to examine the election, not to broadcast the names of confidential informants or undercover officers. <br /><br />Even so, I don't see how the county can legally dodge constitutionally-authorized oversight by the Senate. The county isn't like a state government challenging Federal oversight; it's a creature of the state, not a sovereign and independent entity in its own right. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-66905671242879033412021-05-07T12:10:45.400-04:002021-05-07T12:10:45.400-04:00Yes, you're right. On the other hand, if the r...Yes, you're right. On the other hand, if the router had e.g. the names of current officers working undercover, releasing that info could endanger them.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-50290744685935830042021-05-07T10:30:23.134-04:002021-05-07T10:30:23.134-04:00I read the article, but it’s a remarkable claim of...I read the article, but it’s a remarkable claim of perfect immunity to a subpoena. All you’d have to do is store some amount of law enforcement data and that server would never have to be turned over for oversight. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-6203420445409878592021-05-07T08:44:45.071-04:002021-05-07T08:44:45.071-04:00I don't know how plausible it is, but the stat...I don't know how plausible it is, but the statement from Maricopa County was:<br /><br />"Maricopa County has more than 50 different county departments, and the routers the Senate subpoena commanded the County produce support all of these departments, not just elections operations," Moseley said. "This includes critical law enforcement data that, by law, cannot be disclosed, as well as Maricopa County residents' protected health information and full social security numbers."<br /><br />"By providing the routers, or even virtual images of routers, sensitive data and the lives of law enforcement personnel could be endangered," he added, stating that the routers "remain in the county's custody for the time being."Tomnoreply@blogger.com