tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post9179101783651305757..comments2024-03-28T21:41:32.110-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: Who Are You Calling "White," White Boy?Grimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-67273544447256552612015-07-19T14:13:12.265-04:002015-07-19T14:13:12.265-04:00And by 'at least a couple,' I mean that th...And by 'at least a couple,' I mean that there are a couple of spots on the family tree where someone is supposed to have taken a Cherokee or Creek wife. Obviously, if that were true, it would really mean a very vast number of such ancestors (i.e., her mother and father, their mothers and fathers, etc).Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-39591512864458209852015-07-19T14:11:39.491-04:002015-07-19T14:11:39.491-04:00Ha! I didn't do one of those tests, but my pa...Ha! I didn't do one of those tests, but my parents both did them recently. As suspected, my ancestry very heavily lies in Great Britain, with some input from Western Europe. No real surprises, except a complete lack of Native American markers. Like Warren, our 'family lore' suggested I should have at least a couple of Native American ancestors (and maybe I did, but it doesn't turn up in the DNA test).Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-13515510008007522262015-07-19T14:06:51.892-04:002015-07-19T14:06:51.892-04:00Heh. If what I have read is correct, before mating...Heh. If what I have read is correct, before mating with Neanderthals, you'd be 'black' as in out of Africa. <br /><br />Nobody was ever "white". Now, I recently did a DNA test that popped out some interesting data if it is correct, including markers from Spain, the British Isles and the Caucauses. (as well as makers for every other group in Europe you'd care to name--it's all there in varying degrees). <br /><br />As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to be marking "Hispanic" on any forms I gotta sign from now on.<br />Eric Blairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-6154315455474749752015-07-19T13:55:36.234-04:002015-07-19T13:55:36.234-04:00That's true. I keep trying to tell people tha...That's true. I keep trying to tell people that this holds for all species, actually: in biology we treat a species like <i>canis familiaris</i> as if it had a much harder line than it does. Life is vague. It may simply not be clear if you "are" or "are not" white, although there will be some cases we can all agree are examples of the thing we're using the word to describe. Probably everyone would agree that I am "white" in the way we use the term, and yet Elizabeth Warren was able to present herself as a 'person of color' without apparent challenge for many years.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-72623466575392468542015-07-19T13:51:23.297-04:002015-07-19T13:51:23.297-04:00We haven't been "white" white since ...We haven't been "white" white since we started mingling with Neanderthal.<br /><br />It's a foolish argument; we don't even have a good definition of "human" except by drawing an arbitrary line in the DNA.<br /><br />Eric HinesE Hineshttp://aplebessite.comnoreply@blogger.com