tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post8125946203862536727..comments2024-03-29T03:57:26.974-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: The Battle of HastingsGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-70979881348651702812015-10-16T20:56:11.394-04:002015-10-16T20:56:11.394-04:00Don't need to play Skyrim to get that joke, it...Don't need to play Skyrim to get that joke, it's a common internet meme on youtube and other sites by now. For any intel analysts, it's pretty easy to open source data mine that.<br /><br />I'm thinking of Stamford Bridge as I read Grim's opening lines.<br /><br />Thinking also of William the Conqueror. The Normans being the Vikings linked up with the Bretons, that is, up near Frisia or Zeeland, or what is now Holland.<br /><br /><b>He died fighting Harold Godwinson at the Battle of Stamford Bridge in the north of England.</b><br /><br />Ooh, here's the answer. There it is.<br /><br />I had thought it was William the Norman Conqueror, but it was a different Norse king. 1066 is actually farther along in the timeline than what I'm looking at, history wise.<br /><br />Ragnarr and his sons did quite a number on the Anglo Saxon Britain territories.<br /><br />Talk about taking defeat from the mouth of victory. Godwinson had to fight two Viking blood derived armies. Tough situation to be in. His dynasty got diminished as a result too.<br /><br />Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-86878162713831830762015-10-15T13:18:52.603-04:002015-10-15T13:18:52.603-04:00Not at all.<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollo" rel="nofollow">Not at all</a>. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-4210856443674441542015-10-15T13:13:20.950-04:002015-10-15T13:13:20.950-04:00I was also under the impression the Normans themse...I was also under the impression the Normans themselves were of Norse descent (thus Nor-man, North Man). And that they settled in Normandy as a form of tribute from the French kings in exchange for cessation of raiding. Was I incorrect?MikeDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08116809134355184859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-71217739453340451282015-10-15T12:13:01.719-04:002015-10-15T12:13:01.719-04:00The Normans were pretty amazing. I sometimes thin...The Normans <i>were</i> pretty amazing. I sometimes think Tolkien had them in mind when he wrote about the Dunedain, the natural-born "Kings of Men" who went everywhere and, whatever men they found where they went, became kings. Even where it didn't work out in the long run, the kings who replaced them were usually of Norman stock, intermarried with the locals. The Irish call them the "Old English" even today, but they mean the Fitzpatricks and Fizgeralds -- names we think of as prototypically Irish because they prospered and came to lead the culture, as they did the nation. Robert the Bruce's insurgency was Norman-Scottish, not just a Celtic revolt against invaders from the south, but also a revolt by another branch of the Norman nobility that saw itself as properly independent from Edward I's Anglo-Norman kingdom. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-30731865181800906962015-10-15T10:23:13.528-04:002015-10-15T10:23:13.528-04:00The Normans were pretty amazing generally, at a ti...The Normans were pretty amazing generally, at a time when the rest of Europe had sort of run out of steam. They kept striking out in all directions and stirring things up wherever they arrived.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-21032221298136651402015-10-15T09:19:33.255-04:002015-10-15T09:19:33.255-04:001066 was an incredible year. I read Howarth's ...1066 was an incredible year. I read Howarth's book about it in high school, and I've never gotten over the fascination. We Viking guys sometimes try to imagine a world in which Harald Hardrada conquered England and successfully resisted William, but that's a) far-fetched, and b) pointless, as Harald H. was every bit the bloody despot William was.Lars Walkerhttp://www.brandywinebooks.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-63186824375844000752015-10-14T21:40:10.588-04:002015-10-14T21:40:10.588-04:00Interesting- never read any of the particulars of ...Interesting- never read any of the particulars of the battle, only that it was a defeat for the Anglo Saxons.ravennoreply@blogger.com