tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post7521133500509305363..comments2024-03-28T16:58:17.705-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: Marine Corps' "Gender Integrated Infantry Unit" Finishes AssessmentGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-38146826871212999032015-09-16T13:29:32.994-04:002015-09-16T13:29:32.994-04:00... I could lift the same amount of weight on a be...<i>... I could lift the same amount of weight on a bench press machine as guys much bigger than I was.</i><br /><br />Which, by the way, isn't the same as being able to do this day-in, day-out. I had the muscle strength, but suspect there are important differences in the joint area. That's a distinction that seems to get lost a lot.<br />Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-73237119971066866112015-09-16T13:19:40.902-04:002015-09-16T13:19:40.902-04:00Seems quite plausible to me, Grim. The upper body ...Seems quite plausible to me, Grim. The upper body strength thing is a big deal.<br /><br />I was very athletic in HS and my legs and abs were extremely strong. I could lift the same amount of weight on a bench press machine as guys much bigger than I was.<br /><br />But in upper body strength... no contest whatsoever. When we had our first child, I couldn't carry him on the kiddy backpack (our kids were BIG) until I spent 3-4 weeks doing Army presses at Nautilus.<br /><br />When the kids were small, I did odd jobs like house painting and windows, and again the upper body thing just killed me. I remember coming home once from a window job so tired that I just broke down and cried. I was shaking all over from sheer fatigue.<br /><br />One of the more plausible criticisms I've seen of these trials is that women come into them less prepared. Well, that may be but the military doesn't control how people prepare for Infantry school, or life in general. Maybe if girls did all the same things boys did, we'd be still-less-strong but not as less strong.<br /><br />Since I'm spamming Grim's comments today with links, this was hysterical if you haven't already seen it:<br /><br />http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/15/guantanamo-bay-prisoners-match-com-profile-detained-ready-mingle/<br />Cassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-61887054728537488062015-09-16T12:50:51.985-04:002015-09-16T12:50:51.985-04:00What the British suggest about that is that fatigu...What the British suggest about that is that fatigue is the main thing lowering weapons accuracy. Because they are less strong across the board (and the USMC study replicates that finding, with regard to the overlap between the 25% strongest women and the 25% weakest men), the same activity tires women more than men. That extra fatigue shows up in the ability to put steel on target during combat maneuvers. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-11609963229563844792015-09-16T12:19:24.206-04:002015-09-16T12:19:24.206-04:00Leaving aside the obvious inadvisability of mixed ...Leaving aside the obvious inadvisability of mixed units. I was rather surprised accuracy is better along all weapons honestly. I wonder if weapon weight is a factor. I would have thought point and shoot being the one place where men and women were more or less equal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-28754825416914230642015-09-16T09:36:32.421-04:002015-09-16T09:36:32.421-04:00This was awfully good, even if it *was* written by...This was awfully good, even if it *was* written by an Army officer:<br /><br />http://www.wsj.com/articles/women-in-the-infantry-no-thanks-1442271810<br /><br /><i>I was thrilled when Capt. Griest and First Lt. Haver earned their Ranger tabs. I was especially pleased when Army cadre and peers assured me that the Ranger School’s high standards were maintained. As a woman, I support equal rights to a sensible point. At the same time, women must acknowledge that equality does not mean selective equality. I wish it did. I want to see those hard-charging, superwomen sisters of mine pursue every career opportunity the military offers men. No doubt they can do it—and do it well. But Ranger School for these two exceptional individuals is not the same as allowing women to serve in the infantry.</i><br /><br /><i>First, opening the infantry to women necessitates revisiting Rostker v. Goldberg, the 1981 Supreme Court ruling that only men are required to register for the draft. If the infantry is compelled to include women, the argument against women registering for the draft will be invalidated. If women are to be treated “equally” and serve in the infantry, shouldn’t they be drafted into the infantry at an equal rate?</i><br /><br />For some reason, I found myself thinking of the Princess Bride.<br /><br />"You keep using that word (equality). I am not sure it means what you think it means." :pCassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-78897469876155653332015-09-16T09:26:39.818-04:002015-09-16T09:26:39.818-04:00SCIENCE DENIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!11! :p<b>SCIENCE DENIERS!!!!!!!!!!!!11!</b> :pCassandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00083557761155403492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-58970257919889518592015-09-16T08:12:47.114-04:002015-09-16T08:12:47.114-04:00Correction: Insert "not" in front of spe...Correction: Insert "not" in front of special for last comment. Changes the meaning slightly, inverting it to "not a special trait of" x.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-51086622584249644982015-09-16T08:10:17.930-04:002015-09-16T08:10:17.930-04:00Think about the Marines you are personally condemn...<i>Think about the Marines you are personally condemning to death.</i><br /><br />What?<br /><br />The Left has NEVER concerned itself with life. Never. Dad29https://www.blogger.com/profile/08554276286736923821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-24063122929509512532015-09-16T08:06:57.932-04:002015-09-16T08:06:57.932-04:00Hussein and his subordinates get a big phat smile ...Hussein and his subordinates get a big phat smile on their face when Americans die or are tortured.<br /><br />That's also something people who thought the Democrat party were full of clowns like Ayers in the clown car that is the org itself, with little to no over arching strategic threat.<br /><br />Ayers and Soros must have seemed like meaningless statistics to you, Grim, years ago, and you would have liked to downplay them as non entities.<br /><br />Reality is a little bit different once those justifications and rationalizations are stripped off. Just as you did not see the threat of Ayers or his student, Hussein Obola, nor can you see what else is going on. But that is your special fault or trait, just look amongst your Leftist associates, their zombie gazes are manifold and manifest. Amongst every one is a proto Ayers or a potential Hussein O.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-45602685795152216382015-09-16T08:03:50.753-04:002015-09-16T08:03:50.753-04:00The truth is that Democrats are selling promotions...The truth is that Democrats are selling promotions in combat to purge the military and replace them with loyalists.<br /><br />The truth is that all women and all male military units have always worked better in the long run.<br /><br />But that is not the truth people wish to see, so they make up rationalizations about non existent coincidences and justifications.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.com