tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post6958420354186937165..comments2024-03-18T22:21:01.033-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: Situational ethicsGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-8648272279395146492012-12-14T18:56:28.184-05:002012-12-14T18:56:28.184-05:00That's a citation very much on point, Mr. Walk...That's a citation very much on point, Mr. Walker.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-85057829108490252672012-12-14T10:36:54.014-05:002012-12-14T10:36:54.014-05:00"And the king said to her, 'What is the m..."And the king said to her, 'What is the matter with you?' And she answered, 'This woman said to me, 'Give your son that we may eat him today, and we will eat my son tomorrow.' So we boiled my son and ate him; and I said to her the next day, 'Give your son, that we may eat him'; but she has hidden her son.'" (2 Kings 6:28-29)Lars Walkerhttp://www.brandywinebooks.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-40926821086864092492012-12-13T16:50:57.986-05:002012-12-13T16:50:57.986-05:00This is an illustrative and horrifying read.
htt...This is an illustrative and horrifying read. <br /> http://books.google.com/books/about/Ordinary_Men.html?id=Tt4VBKiFGRcC ravennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-3958404858690210152012-12-13T15:41:12.401-05:002012-12-13T15:41:12.401-05:00As someone said, if you take away God, it's no...As someone said, if you take away God, it's not that people will believe in nothing, it's that often they will believe in anything. And if you abandon an old moral code, it's not that people will live without a moral code, but that they'll often adopt the first one they're handed that works out well for themselves personally and in the moment.<br /><br />By saying this, I don't at all mean to imply that anyone here who believes neither in God nor in a traditional moral code is either amoral or universally credulous. Obviously some people in this camp try very hard to construct a coherent and admirable worldview and moral code. But history tells us that lots of people don't do at all well trying to construct such a thing on their own from scratch, under pressure.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-37809191456991768332012-12-13T12:46:41.667-05:002012-12-13T12:46:41.667-05:00Hannah Arendt wrote about this problem too, and on...Hannah Arendt wrote about this problem too, and one of the things she noted was that for the most part the Nazis went out of their way to exclude people with mental or moral problems from the killing units. They just found ways of explaining what they were about in these traditional moral terms -- like the grasshopper and the ant.<br /><br />So, for example, members of the <i><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen" rel="nofollow">Einsatzgruppen</a></i> were given speeches in which they were praised for their sacrifices. 'Of course we understand how hard and how terrible this is,' they would be told by a highly-ranked Nazi. 'No one should have to go through what you've been through. That's what makes it so praiseworthy: what you are doing means that your children and grandchildren will never have to be put through this kind of hardship.' <br /><br />Because, of course, you'll have killed all the Jews already. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-21564095042070588402012-12-13T12:35:10.717-05:002012-12-13T12:35:10.717-05:00It's actually just the grasshopper and the ant...It's actually just the grasshopper and the ant: "Where were you when the work was to be done?" The work, in this case, was just the killing off of the previous owners.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-57751068161741401782012-12-13T12:34:01.868-05:002012-12-13T12:34:01.868-05:00It sure sounds like the standard "entitlement...It sure sounds like the standard "entitlement class" dialog. Different time and place, same result- greed and envy are terrible masters. ravennoreply@blogger.com