tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post6651712886085091004..comments2024-03-28T09:56:06.298-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: The Last Ride of William Jefferson ClintonGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-54978419707123845342012-09-08T19:50:11.771-04:002012-09-08T19:50:11.771-04:00"They're more like guidelines."
Mer...<i>"They're more like guidelines."</i><br /><br />Mere suggestions at best.<br /><br />I think it differs from what the RNC did- I saw video that made the ayes sound louder, so there is at least the reasonable argument that it was close and depended on who was closest to you, whether the ayes or nos had it, and if the voice vote is allowed, and the speakers opinion is the referee, so be it. If it were more important, then bylaws would call for a balloted vote. In the Dems case, I wonder if they were in a formal position to hold the vote legitimately- did they have a quorum? The arena was mostly empty. Was there proper notification in advance of the vote? Most votes for changes require some advance notice.<br /><br />But of course, all that only matters if you think the rules matter, and it's clear our ruling class doesn't believe that to be the case.douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17261739259295914188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-26526830088959803392012-09-06T22:24:34.517-04:002012-09-06T22:24:34.517-04:00I'm not sure I understand what a "shared ...<i> I'm not sure I understand what a "shared opportunity" is.</i><br /><br />In Europe, they're calling it collectivizing the debt.<br /><br />Eric HinesE Hineshttp://aplebessite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-38271520381031115862012-09-06T22:11:58.665-04:002012-09-06T22:11:58.665-04:00"Hm... maybe I do understand what "share...<i>"Hm... maybe I do understand what "shared opportunity" means, after all."</i><br /><br />Yes sir... I think you've got it by the essentials.<br /><br />As far as Mr. Hines question, <i>Does the DNC use Robert's Rules? Or Barack's By-Laws?"</i><br /><br />As far as Robert's Rules of Order goes, wasn't it the former commenter, Ymar, who often cited entropy and the dissolution of order in society as a means to explain the destructive trends we see more and more often in our institutions?<br /><br />Which leads me to suggest that maybe Robert's Rules should be amended to allow for a special rule to facilitate a caning point of order? That might make political conventions more interesting, and to a wider audience. <br /><br /><i>The ah, er, gentleman... delegate from the Occupy Any Street Territories, the gentleman delegate from the [re]occupied territories, and the gentleman delegate from the Atheists contingent wish to call for the Mayor of L.A. to be held over on a caning point of order for the delegate vote count amending the party platform taken on 05-Sep-12.</i><br /><br />Hmmmm... bthunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789441349826379510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-55484928905028171582012-09-06T21:48:39.628-04:002012-09-06T21:48:39.628-04:00I like the idea of an "all in it together soc...I like the idea of an "all in it together society" if we are, say, attacked by Imperial Japan. But I'm not sure I understand what a "shared opportunity" is. I understand that Solyndra got a great opportunity, which I had the honor of sharing... in the costs of... but if it had worked, I doubt I would have shared in the profits.<br /><br />The government would have shared in the profits, via taxes; and actually, they were the ones who provided the investment (of my dollars). Hm... maybe I do understand what "shared opportunity" means, after all.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-35310444092133577752012-09-06T21:40:55.478-04:002012-09-06T21:40:55.478-04:00"“If you want a country of shared opportuniti...<i>"“If you want a country of shared opportunities and shared responsibilities – a "we're all in it together" society, you should vote for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.”"</i><br /><br />To continue with the theme Grim presented in the comment above I will paraphrase my distant cousin, Captain Bubba Barbossa, by simply saying that I'm disinclined to acquiesce to that suggestion... Means no.bthunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15789441349826379510noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-27399491598417284772012-09-06T15:30:55.952-04:002012-09-06T15:30:55.952-04:00I'm no fan of the DNC. Never have been.I'm no fan of the DNC. Never have been. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-32276021992373188422012-09-06T15:25:57.969-04:002012-09-06T15:25:57.969-04:00I'm sorry but the line from Slick Willy's ...I'm sorry but the line from Slick Willy's speech last night that needs to be spotlighted, highlighted, replayed in super-slow motion and then excoriated in perpetuity is this:<br /><i>“If you want a country of <b>shared opportunities and shared responsibilities</b> – a <b>"we're all in it together" society</b>, you should vote for Barack Obama and Joe Biden.”</i><br /><br />This will sit beside "You Didn't Build That!" as one of the many nails the DNC drove into their own coffins.<br />Good riddance to bad rubbish, IM(NSH)O. (No offense, Grim)<br />0>;~}DL Slynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-9066994089521340002012-09-06T13:22:23.995-04:002012-09-06T13:22:23.995-04:00They're more like guidelines.They're more like guidelines.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-10332159932310248392012-09-06T12:33:20.137-04:002012-09-06T12:33:20.137-04:00Does the DNC use Robert's Rules? Or Barack...Does the DNC use Robert's Rules? Or Barack's By-Laws?<br /><br />Eric HinesE Hineshttp://aplebessite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-63951881598876610832012-09-06T12:20:37.793-04:002012-09-06T12:20:37.793-04:00I doubt it will apply in that way. Remember that ...I doubt it will apply in that way. Remember that the <a href="http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/08/31/video-confirmation-the-fix-was-in-on-those-republican-rules-changes/" rel="nofollow">RNC did much the same thing</a>.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-91735705599207002132012-09-06T09:47:03.588-04:002012-09-06T09:47:03.588-04:00I hope the way they apply is to undermine popular ...I hope the way they apply is to undermine popular support for the institution that use the Rules that way.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.com