tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post6068391275238308848..comments2024-03-29T03:57:26.974-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: A Step Closer to ShieldmaidensGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-23984210983480171182017-09-19T07:00:24.910-04:002017-09-19T07:00:24.910-04:00The Japanese used the women of the samurai clans a...The Japanese used the women of the samurai clans as home guard, when the warriors were deployed outside. This is more logical, since warriors come from women. Losing the women of the clan is actually a harder blow, long term, than losing an equal set of warriors. Although in the short term, losing warriors can mean annihilation.<br /><br />Many women followed the crusades on the example of Jean De Arc. They were often treated as useless by the Orthodox or Vatican authorities, so they were sometimes abandoned and had to take on other less honorable work.<br /><br />The Greek Orthodox and the Vatican were not supported nor approved by the triune godhead or divine counsel, thus the Holy Spirit did not enlighten them on how to use women crusaders.<br /><br />In the age of muscle power, other than the Holy Spirit, no other training method had ever been found to produce women of superior caliber to men when it came to muscle power. The Eastern internal arts had not been transferred or known.<br /><br />Jean De Arc was a notable anomaly because of how little time it took to educate her in siege works, open field battles, and personal combat using plate armor. It's not something even modern trainers can reproduce, especially not with illiterate peasant girls. Boadicea came from a Celtic warrior and noble family background.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-49693603210799325402017-09-10T17:10:53.230-04:002017-09-10T17:10:53.230-04:00You have to get the pathology study, as you note. ...You have to get the pathology study, as you note. <br /><br />There maybe all sorts of reason why.<br /><br />Women with martial grave goods are found all over the steppes, which curiously enough, is where the Amazons were supposed to be, but no one still is sure just what was going on. But something was. <br /><br />Eric Blairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-33858247642628813692017-09-10T11:27:36.882-04:002017-09-10T11:27:36.882-04:00There's a parallel discussion later, too: the...There's a parallel discussion later, too: there are occasional warrior women in the Arthurian stories, which become enormously popular among Norman (i.e., formerly Northmen) kings in England, Normandy, and Brittany. These stories also are wildly popular in the French language regions generally. Now these are clearly stories, and the warrior women aren't taken to be evidence for female warriors. On the other hand, Arabic language sources about the First Crusade report female women in armor riding among the French Crusaders -- though French language sources don't.<br /><br />Now, in the Second Crusade, <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine" rel="nofollow">Eleanor of Aquitaine</a> definitely did put on armor and go on Crusade. However, (a) we know that it was very controversial, which you wouldn't think it would have been if that had been common in the First Crusade, and (b) there's no evidence she fought -- she was there as I suspect this Viking female leader might have been, as the rightful commander by inheritance of blood but not as a warrior herself. <br /><br />So, as yet, we can't be sure what to make of all this. But it's an interesting field of study.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-76053806280266777222017-09-10T11:15:19.766-04:002017-09-10T11:15:19.766-04:00This particular grave is probably not that, althou...This particular grave is probably not that, although that is noncontroversial -- we have many instances of that in the sagas. This grave, though, shows the highest degree of martial trophies, so much so that it was long taken to be a leading example of how a Viking leader would be buried.<br /><br />However, even today, we bury Presidents with the highest military honors we afford -- and almost none of them ever carried a gun in battle. Kings even today occupy the highest places in European orders of knighthood, and did even when European kings were more likely to command armies, but they were never at the forefront of battle (especially not while kings).<br /><br />On the other hand, we might be missing some legitimate shieldmaidens by interpreting the evidence of their graves wrongly, too. We might be misinterpreting female bodies with wounds, for example, as having been injured in some other way. <br /><br />So it's still possible, and I'm not trying to dismiss the possibility. Viking warrior women are occasionally attested in some accounts, although they tend to be the less solid histories and the more mythic ones. I'm just trying to point out that this doesn't get us there.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-68789154802860239022017-09-10T10:55:25.628-04:002017-09-10T10:55:25.628-04:00ed in texas
Them again, the female warrior may ha...ed in texas<br /><br />Them again, the female warrior may have been the one left in charge of home defenses while the men went out on the attack. If you're in a battle while defending the home, you're more likely to just be overrun, so no hero's grave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com