tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post5855634014799487591..comments2024-03-29T03:57:26.974-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: Oath Keepers Interfering with Racial Grievance NarrativeGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-13444857171773622962015-08-13T16:35:19.550-04:002015-08-13T16:35:19.550-04:00That's the wrong way, too. The "New Blac...That's the wrong way, too. The "New Black Panthers" are still advocating lawlessness, and practicing it. <br /><br />When the originals got started, though, they carried shotguns and a capacity to quote the law to the police verbatim. They made a lot of headway at first, because everything they were doing was legal. They couldn't be stopped from carrying shotguns, as long as they didn't have a round in the chamber while they were traveling in the car. They couldn't be disarmed, as they had a constitutional right. They knew what they were about, and it worked as long as they kept to it. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-22202479058390667492015-08-13T00:26:46.382-04:002015-08-13T00:26:46.382-04:00Well, here you are: http://www.breitbart.com/texas...Well, here you are: http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2015/08/12/armed-black-panthers-march-in-waller-count-texas-oink-oink-bang-bang/<br /><br />Not sure what I think about this yet.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-19085877585181887262015-08-11T14:37:40.785-04:002015-08-11T14:37:40.785-04:00As a broader criticism, I think the #BLM movement ...As a broader criticism, I think the #BLM movement has adopted an unwise approach. It's decided to rely on illegal actions instead of lawful ones. The reason it comes into conflict with the police all the time is that it has structured its protest in a way that is designed to force the police to arrest or counter them -- blocking off the interstate, for example. This creates a dynamic of constant conflict that reinforces the narrative that the police are especially against black people, but it doesn't offer any way to resolve the conflict. The police can't stop enforcing the law. <br /><br />The alternative approach I'd suggest involves being scrupulously law abiding, while lawfully heavily armed. Then the police do not have a duty to interfere with you, and they have a powerful disincentive. This is even more true if you have brother officers like the Oath Keepers among the protest. They don't want a conflict in that case. <br /><br />In that mode, you would have a protest that demonstrated that black Americans can exercise their rights -- even ones deemed dangerous -- peacefully and without interference. That doesn't reinforce the narrative. Rather, it changes the game. That is a way to make people feel empowered, and encourage them to become engaged and active rather than frightened and angry. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-55786348235111542272015-08-11T14:18:31.516-04:002015-08-11T14:18:31.516-04:00He (or she) is right about the claims, even if the...He (or she) is right about the claims, even if they aren't linked. <br /><br />Being unarmed is part of the problem, if you ask me. The original Black Panthers had it right. They were lawfully armed while asserting their rights in almost exactly the same way as the Oath Keepers. It was only when they took a turn toward lawlessness that their movement lost out. <br /><br />Black cops, veterans, and military members can join the Oath Keepers too. This had to start somewhere. It happened to start with white men. It doesn't have to stay there. It would be better if it didn't. We should all take an interest in defending each other's rights. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-76059812735528514162015-08-11T12:45:01.534-04:002015-08-11T12:45:01.534-04:00Links to support the claims in your first paragrap...Links to support the claims in your first paragraph would be nice. Drive-by commenter privilege isn't invisible anywhere.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-75628970034055315242015-08-11T12:27:19.300-04:002015-08-11T12:27:19.300-04:00Peaceful protestors were arrested eight hours befo...Peaceful protestors were arrested eight hours before this for simply filming the police and two reporters were just charged with multiple crimes for not leaving a McDonald's quickly enough.<br /><br />Can you imagine a black person or group with guns wandering around like this? They are killed when UNarmed! White privilege is really invisible in this hall, isn't it?<br /><br />-bc<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com