tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post3848318593421729292..comments2024-03-28T16:58:17.705-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: What's so funny about peace, love, and understanding?Grimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-91794864327777604212011-12-01T08:35:29.399-05:002011-12-01T08:35:29.399-05:00To be fair, it's not the peace, love and under...To be fair, it's not the peace, love and understanding I object to. It's the lack of hygiene prevalent among that crowd (note, I do not say "universal to that crowd").MikeDnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-7994590237767520462011-11-30T04:51:36.939-05:002011-11-30T04:51:36.939-05:00As I recall, you can tolerate a lot of problems wh...As I recall, you can tolerate a lot of problems when you're young if you're also having 'fun'. That doesn't seem to balance out so well when you're older...douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17261739259295914188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-10052674092061579262011-11-29T13:04:44.950-05:002011-11-29T13:04:44.950-05:00There were of course the commonplace problems of r...There were of course the commonplace problems of reaching consensus in any group of a dozen or so equals. A bigger problem was that an expense-sharing community inevitably attracts a higher-than-normal percentage of seemingly normal people who will move in and then go limp on the community as soon as a little bad luck hits. So almost every month there would be at least one person, maybe two, who couldn't manage to make the costs of food and shelter his number financial priority. He'd know he was unlikely to be evicted immediately (how can you be so mean, etc.), and the rest of us would make up the difference to the landlord.<br /><br />Then, of course, with a dozen twenty-somethings living together, the whole thing is one non-stop Peyton Place.<br /><br />The tragedy of the commons is a real problem; forget about leaving a tool out and expecting to get it back in one piece! There also was the resentment of the over-achievers against the slackers when there are "necessary" improvements to be done, and the corresponding resentment of the slackers against the over-achievers who want to pass the hat for "inessential" public projects. A little microcosm of the state.<br /><br />Those are just the pitfalls. Mostly I loved it.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-48913780576302437722011-11-29T04:13:46.809-05:002011-11-29T04:13:46.809-05:00Well, I'd suspect that it would be some form o...Well, I'd suspect that it would be some form of the tragedy of the commons. This is why the nuclear family first, then the extended family secondarily, have been the backbone to human social existence throughout history. You need the largest group that can still be held accountable to each other in a meaningful way, and that turns out to be pretty small- family. Anything bigger, and you start seeing the tragedy of the commons problem seep in to levels that quickly become problematic.<br /><br />I think the only communes that seem to work fairly well are the religious communities, where they have a commitment to strong convictions binding them together. Anything less than that and it seems to not be enough. Just ask the OWS kids.douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17261739259295914188noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-79349770626627947772011-11-28T20:02:13.823-05:002011-11-28T20:02:13.823-05:00"I guess if a flaw in the system could be fou..."I guess if a flaw in the system could be found, we found it, repeatedly."<br /><br />Would you care to elaborate on this flaw? Seems you had quite an interesting experience, and I'm genuinely curious about it, pros and cons, actually.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com