tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post3763365063726414657..comments2024-03-28T00:01:43.037-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: In defense of John BoehnerGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-16768700858766065062015-01-03T16:49:33.491-05:002015-01-03T16:49:33.491-05:00The reduction in spending is an illusion. The nego...The reduction in spending is an illusion. The negotiations are mostly about how to sell that illusion to the gullible public. ObamaCare would have had a lot more difficulties if the public weren't used to these type of techniques already. They've become tolerant of them, like a drug addicted junkie.<br /><br />Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-24505729487847665602015-01-03T12:23:18.306-05:002015-01-03T12:23:18.306-05:00That's the problem with reducing spending. It...That's the problem with reducing spending. It rarely pleases anyone in its particulars. That may be one reason why it rarely gets done, and why it's so important not to start the spending in the first place: it quickly starts to seem impossible to reverse it.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-34869334821468928972015-01-03T12:06:07.894-05:002015-01-03T12:06:07.894-05:00I'm still straining at the idea that the seque...I'm still straining at the idea that the sequester represents a kind of triumph. It's interesting that the only thing the political class could agree to do was the one thing they all agreed was terrible, horrible, across-the-board bad policy.Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-43820929195841042152015-01-03T11:10:49.358-05:002015-01-03T11:10:49.358-05:00It's much the same tone I encounter on FireDog...It's much the same tone I encounter on FireDogLake: a fury at the inadequately pure politician. They purely hate a lukewarm pseudoliberal, who gets their hopes up then dashes them.<br /><br />Conservatives like me are impatient with Boehner, not so much because he finds it necessary to compromise, as because he rarely finds a way to make us believe he regrets the necessity. When he says "this really is the best we can get," we're not sure he's serious. If he's not serious, then he needs to convince us he's a masterful negotiator. I don't usually see a ton of evidence for that, but this article makes a decent case--but it's hard to see the man ever inspiring a lot of personal loyalty either by his heart or by his skill.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-5536732203522584242015-01-02T22:39:15.339-05:002015-01-02T22:39:15.339-05:00I don't think it's just an inability of th...I don't think it's just an inability of the that part of the right wing to understand tactics. I think it is a type of personality that cannot bear to embrace a politician or cause that is not pure enough. It fits somewhat with Jonathan Haidt's theories about conservatives and liberals - though I have also contended that there is a different sort of purity that is more popular on the left: anti-GMO, organic foods, symbolic environmental gestures, hypersensitivity to offense.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-15841440372711918932015-01-02T15:35:45.336-05:002015-01-02T15:35:45.336-05:00And the constant calls for Obama's impeachment...<i>And the constant calls for Obama's impeachment. With what votes?</i><br /><br />Hey, Barack has his Imaginary Son, these folks have got their Imaginary votes :pCassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-22147469340773796732015-01-02T14:13:48.220-05:002015-01-02T14:13:48.220-05:00People are still being deluded by politics.People are still being deluded by politics.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-12942705193808119532015-01-02T09:07:16.909-05:002015-01-02T09:07:16.909-05:00Amen, Valerie.
That last excerpted paragraph is d...Amen, Valerie.<br /><br />That last excerpted paragraph is dead on.Cassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-74128355318732114352015-01-01T13:00:44.581-05:002015-01-01T13:00:44.581-05:00Pretty much what Valerie said. To which I'd a...Pretty much what Valerie said. To which I'd add that bomb-throwers like Ted Cruz are only being fiery for their personal political gain, and not at all for the sake of the nation--or even of Texas.<br /><br />The too far right wing of the Republicans in Congress (they're not tea partiers, who are a valid and valuable push to the right; they're to the right of those folks) are indistinguishable from Progressives in their "tactics:" they want what they want, all of it, right d*n now, and they'll blow up everything--including compromises that move in their direction and that in their aggregate would take these...persons...all the way to where they want to go (just not right d*n now)--if they can't have it. Two illustrations: the budget offered by Boehner that allowed a small tax increase, that if passed by the House had a chance to pass the Senate, but at the least would have put the Democrats on record as refusing to compromise to get the rest of the 98% of what they wanted. Blown up by titular Republicans because of that compromise on a small tax increase, which resulted in an even larger tax increase being passed.<br /><br />And the constant calls for Obama's impeachment. With what votes? And with what being talked about in public that would not include Progressive/Democrat damage-doing?<br /><br />Eric HinesE Hineshttp://aplebessite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-56617199679996501212015-01-01T12:30:29.547-05:002015-01-01T12:30:29.547-05:00Yup. Considering the hands he has been given, I&#...Yup. Considering the hands he has been given, I'd say he has played them very well.<br /><br />I also have trouble telling the alleged true believers from troublemaking Democrats. The true believers have nothing whatsoever nice to say about any prominent Republican, ever, and they say really stupid things, such as there is no difference between the Republicans and the Democrats, and therefore Conservatives should stay home and not vote.<br /><br />Which is fine, if you want the Democrats to win.<br /><br />ValerieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com