tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post2656361970094503185..comments2024-03-29T03:57:26.974-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: DefianceGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-77619586034627440272015-07-04T13:35:35.919-04:002015-07-04T13:35:35.919-04:00The war continues, irregardless of what the Southe...The war continues, irregardless of what the Southern Democrats want.Ymar Sakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-62395213058556287472015-06-30T19:03:04.055-04:002015-06-30T19:03:04.055-04:00Actually, I think it was Tx. Att. Gen. Paxton who ...Actually, I think it was Tx. Att. Gen. Paxton who framed it that way, not Cruz.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-55132638756839427112015-06-30T19:00:28.393-04:002015-06-30T19:00:28.393-04:00The particular issue he raised was county clerks w...The particular issue he raised was county clerks who were asked to issue licenses.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-12654512441102381402015-06-30T16:21:38.633-04:002015-06-30T16:21:38.633-04:00I don't think Cruz conceives of the situation ...I don't think Cruz conceives of the situation as a limitation on state power, as you have written that you do. He conceives of it as an expansion of state power, one that is contrary to basic moral principles. <br /><br />Should you resign under those circumstances? Quite possibly. Of course, that leaves the whole government in the hands of those whose moral principles differ from yours -- quite a surrender, given that right now even SCOTUS was 5-4, and at the state level there might be even a majority in some states on your side of the question. If every Republican governor, attorney general, clerk of courts, etc., were to resign if they disagreed with implementing this ruling -- well, we'd have a pretty different government pretty fast. <br /><br />Strategically, then, that's probably not the smart move if you're serious about finding ways to resist this ruling. I'm not, myself: I think this is just a mistake America has to make, which will work itself out in due time. In fact, I think it's likely that gay as well as straight Americans will want out of this soon enough. What <i>Paint Your Wagon</i> called "all the tyrannies of marriage" were designed to address a particular set of concerns, those that arise between men and women building a life together with intimate relations. It's not at all clear that unions of two men, or two women, will need or want all and only the same rules. <br /><br />Someday, then, we'll probably revisit the question with an eye towards re-establishing a distinction. Gay civil unions will continue to exist, but they won't be conflated with marriages -- and that's what really we should have done in the first place. Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-7220397186477733872015-06-30T13:51:53.368-04:002015-06-30T13:51:53.368-04:00I've been trying to sort out my thoughts on th...I've been trying to sort out my thoughts on this one. Since I don't object to gay marriage, I try to imagine how I'd feel about it if the Supreme Court had required the state to stop interfering in some practice I genuinely opposed. My first reaction was that someone who works for the government probably ought to resign if he feels he no longer can implement government policy; it's quite different from the position of a private baker or church. If I were a doctor employed by the government and were asked to perform an abortion, should I have to resign my government post? I'm inclined to say "yes," but I can't quite work it out yet. It doesn't help that I'm convinced that far too many of us work for the government.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-23869840379219851532015-06-30T04:20:28.910-04:002015-06-30T04:20:28.910-04:00Well, that certainly tends to give one the impress...Well, that certainly tends to give one the impression that he actually believes what he's saying. Pretty rare in the political world.douglashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03241790925053112959noreply@blogger.com