tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post1995739273963031017..comments2024-03-28T16:58:17.705-04:00Comments on Grim's Hall: In Praise of Alpha MalesGrimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-30105769774112630832017-11-22T23:44:12.530-05:002017-11-22T23:44:12.530-05:00The A for Alpha on the Greek Spartan shields.
Jus...The A for Alpha on the Greek Spartan shields.<br /><br />Just means first amongst equals. Humans have utilized patriarchs as first amongst equals for awhile now. Abraham. Moses. David/Saul.<br /><br />The West, specifically English people, needed a way to create hierarchy in the language now that medieval hierarchy has been discarded. Cannot talk about things that exist without the words. In Japanese, they already have a hierarchy to denotate superior and inferior. So does the US military with ranks.<br /><br />By breaking the Western conception of families and the authority behind bottom up organizations like family, this created a power vacuum for the Left's Gramsci March through. For a strategy that needed a hundred plus years to bear fruit, it wasn't that bad. It worked after all.<br /><br />It is sad that humans have to go to wolf packs to figure out human mating and authority issues in the family, but then again, that's part of the Flat Earth Model resurrection as well.Ymarsakarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-8294240478485162102017-11-21T08:48:55.548-05:002017-11-21T08:48:55.548-05:00It's been a while, so it's hard to recall ...It's been a while, so it's hard to recall what bothered me so much about the ubiquity of the "alpha male" thing online. I suspect it had a lot to do with Tom's comment about pseudo-science and the PUA community (who seemed to me to act and talk more like annoying 13 year old boys than men) going on and on and on (and on...) about how "alpha" they were and how "beta" and "gamma" other men were. If you have to constantly remind others you are the alpha... :p<br /><br />When I was dating, it was important to me that boys/men I went out with were secure in their own right. I didn't want someone I could push around - a relationship where partners are fairly evenly matched seemed healthier to me (and still does).<br /><br />I suspect another part of my issues with the term alpha had to do with how often it was used to excuse or justify bad behavior ("He's not afraid to act like an inconsiderate jerk/to treat other people badly"). Strong men I've admired in my life have always been balanced (able to assert themselves when that's needed, but also to be gentle/kind/protective).<br /><br />When I see someone of either sex act like an arrogant jerk, that usually makes me think they are insecure rather than strong/confident.Cassnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-51935953551723178782017-11-20T10:30:18.426-05:002017-11-20T10:30:18.426-05:00You're largely tracking Cass' objection, w...You're largely tracking Cass' objection, which has to do with the inapplicability of the term to human biology. I was just going to let it go this once. :) Grimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07543082562999855432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-2117532684180731442017-11-19T21:39:00.656-05:002017-11-19T21:39:00.656-05:00Terms are important. Terms are important. Eric Blairnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-28034274587104639312017-11-19T00:53:47.982-05:002017-11-19T00:53:47.982-05:00The only problem I have is with the term "alp...The only problem I have is with the term "alpha male" because it is pseudo-scientific. It comes from some research done on wolves, but later research debunked that initial research. As it turns out, the "alpha male" of a wolf pack is just Dad. If you're not procreating with the alpha female and raising pups, you're not an alpha male.<br /><br />We used to just call such men "manly". But no, everything has to sound super scientificish today, so we adopt these pseudo-scientific terms for ideas that have been around millenia longer than science. Plus, the PUA community has adopted it, so it's kinda icky now.<br /><br />Anyway, yes, I agree with the post. Just quibbling with terms again.Tomnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-73650818415255019452017-11-18T17:19:31.668-05:002017-11-18T17:19:31.668-05:00So, does this mean I can't self-identify as a ...So, does this mean I can't self-identify as a cisnormal, heteropatriachical, alpha male? Would such a self-identification expose me as dangerously aggressive just from the self-identification?<br /><br />But what about my Gaia-given right to be what I want to be, just from the claiming?<br /><br />Eric HinesE Hineshttp://aplebessite.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5173950.post-68742899206918338282017-11-18T11:12:52.356-05:002017-11-18T11:12:52.356-05:00Now, now, we like alpha males unless they're t...Now, now, we like alpha males unless they're <i>toxic.</i><br /><br />I agree with you, of course. I'm pretty sure I could get along with Genghis Khan a lot better than with anyone wearing a uterus hat.Texan99https://www.blogger.com/profile/10479561573903660086noreply@blogger.com