Dr. Jill Stein on Clinton, Russia, SCOTUS



Charles Krauthammer and she are apparently alumni of the same school. He has a question for her: won't you feel bad if you get Trump elected?
"I will feel terrible if Donald Trump gets elected and I will feel terrible if Hillary Clinton gets elected," Stein said.

"Equally so?" Krauthammer asked.

"Yes," she said. "Hillary Clinton wants to start an air war over Syria with a nuclear-armed power [Russia] with 2,000 nuclear weapons on hair-trigger alert. Given Hillary Clinton's record not only in Iraq, but in Libya, I think this is as dangerous as it gets."

"Donald Trump wants to bar Muslims from entering into this country, but Hillary Clinton has been very busy bombing Muslims in other countries," she said.
The woman loses me when she starts talking about making Medea Benjamin the Secretary of State. Clearly I don't agree with her on a lot of issues. On the other hand, she's an honest woman -- and she's clearly the outlaw candidate, having a warrant out for her arrest even now.

They asked her about that too: "I think we're in a crisis situation, which I do not take lightly.... bulldozed gravesites... loosed attack dogs... putting at risk the water supply, not just for the Standing Rock Sioux but for 17 million people downstream...."

Assuming she believes all that honesty, and she does seem to be an honest woman, spray-painting a bulldozer is if anything a weak response. Thermite would have been better.

Oh, and DNC / Jeh Johnson and pay to play: "Pay to play is the name of the game these days. We can look at the Clinton Foundation. I think the American people are very uncomfortable with the blurring of the lines between p ublic interest and private interest... to exert that interest behind closed doors... big banks, the power of the health insurance companies that have had a hand in creating Obamacare... the American people are really being thrown under the bus by what they see as a rigged economy and a rigged political system...."

She's no Trump fan, as she goes on to paint clearly. No, she's running on her own. She won't win, of course, but there's a chance she's the best candidate left standing.

13 comments:

Anonymous said...

Meh. She wants us to pay astronomic price for oil, So does Obama
Both of these Politicians hate us.

Look, Folks need jobs. We are 20 trillion in debt. We need to work together

In a way, this is a replacement to the USA section of Keystone pipeline. Keystone was never going to go away, It just morphed into smaller Pipeline. You can build the Keystone pipeline as one pipeline or several pipelines all connected. Dakota access is just one of those sections.


Think about these articles.

1. Pipelines are much safer than shipping oil by rail, Fraser Institute study says
http://business.financialpost.com/news/energy/pipelines-much-safer-than-shipping-oil-by-rail-fraser-institute-study-says?__lsa=3c0d-c90f

2. Oil train traffic is down — for market reasons
https://www.marketplace.org/2016/08/23/sustainability/oil-train-traffic-decline-us

3. There are not enough trains to bring oil to market or coal even...
http://dad29.blogspot.com/2014/07/warren-buffett-v-electricity.html

4. Warren Buffet owns a railway should you.? http://www.gurufocus.com/news/423212/warren-buffett-owns-a-railroad-should-you

5. Pipelines: The Worst Way to Move Oil, Except For All the Rest
http://fortune.com/2016/08/28/pipelines-vs-trains-oil-transport/

..........But here’s the thing—the Sioux’s legal and ethical claims notwithstanding, blocking a pipeline might not be doing any favors for the overall safety of oil transportation. Because as environmentally disastrous and common as pipeline leaks are, the alternative may be worse......

6. Five things to know about the Dakota Access Pipeline fight
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/293535-five-things-to-know-about-the-dakota-access-pipeline-fight

7. Dakota Access Pipeline - A Keystone Replacement?
http://seekingalpha.com/article/4006213-dakota-access-pipeline-keystone-replacement

8.Workers reap cash bonanza from Dakota Access pipeline
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/money/business/2016/09/15/workers-reap-cash-bonanza-dakota-access-pipeline/90124104/

-Mississippi

Joel Leggett said...

No, under no rational construct could she ever be considered the "best candidate standing." As you know, I'm no fan of Trump, but he is many times over more preferable than Dr. Stein.

Grim said...

That's the closest thing to a compliment I've ever heard you give Trump, Joel. I'd be curious to hear who you think is the best candidate left standing, if not Dr. Stein. Is it Trump?

Grim said...

With regard to the pipelines, Mississippi, when they go bad they go really bad. We're having a pipeline disaster issue in Georgia/Alabama right now. It's a huge state of emergency, one that impacts water safety and also the lives of millions (even upstream: Atlanta is now having a major gasoline shortage).

So, while I'll accept that pipelines are the best of a bad set of options, I don't think the concerns she's raising about pipelines are ridiculous.

Joel Leggett said...

Because it has become abundantly clear from the disclosures of the FBI that the reach of Clinton corruption knows no bounds, I have reluctantly come to the position that the only way to stop Hillary, who I consider to represent an existential threat to the Republic, is to vote for the person with the greatest chance of beating her. At this time that person is Trump. If Hillary were to be elected it would represent a victory for the idea that the laws do not apply to the governors, only the governed. That victory would represent the end of the Republic as established in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. You cannot simultaneously be a republic based on equal application of the laws and one in which the laws do not bind the governors.

Grim said...

Good. Well, if Trump wins, I will be right there with you to make sure that the the laws are binding upon him. We won't let him get away with what the Obama administration has gotten away with, nor what the Clinton administration would do even moreso.

It would be a major advance to reverse that ability of the powerful to escape from the laws they enforce on others -- indeed, more and more, only on that part of their fellow citizenry that they consider to be their enemies.

E Hines said...

Hillary Clinton wants to start an air war over Syria with a nuclear-armed power [Russia] with 2,000 nuclear weapons on hair-trigger alert.

Her argument is that that the "air war" risks nuclear retaliation, not that the "air war" is bad policy or tactics. She wants functional preemptive surrender because we might get hurt. And she overblows the likelihood of that injury. That may be honest, but it's purely negligent.

[S]he's clearly the outlaw candidate, having a warrant out for her arrest even now.

She did her deed as an act of civil disobedience. Where's the honesty in then running away, instead of following through on the rest of the act of civil disobedience: surrendering to the police and demanding her public trial forthwith, to maximize the absurdity of her arrest and the law that required it?

Assuming she believes all that honesty....

Based on what facts would I assume that? After all, ...putting at risk the water supply, not just for the Standing Rock Sioux but for 17 million people downstream.... is a nakedly political exaggeration of the risk and the damage--for her own gain, not even for a larger purpose.

Eric Hines

raven said...

It occurs to me the problem with pipelines has about zero to do with new construction and about all to do with poor maintenance. One wonders what environmental hoops have to be jumped through to replace an aging pipeline, as the failure of that pipeline will enhance the agenda of the opposition.

Same reason gun control groups universally oppose gun safety training-
every accident enhances their argument.

Gringo said...

As raven points out, the big issue with pipelines is maintenance. The Big Inch and Little Big Inch pipelines from Texas to New Jersey were constructed over 70 years ago, during WWII. That is a lot of pipeline over a long period of time to take care of.

A former coworker had taken early retirement from BP. He had worked in pipeline management for BP. He told me that upper management repeatedly turned down repair/maintenance requests on the pipelines he managed. When BP offered him a big promotion in pipeline management, he turned the promotion down and took early retirement. He told me he didn't want to be the one holding the bag when there was a big pipeline accident. When the BP Macondo well blew up, and I read of the repeated violations of accepted industry procedure that led to the loss of lives and loss of the well, it sounded to me like the same old BP that turned down pipeline repair requests.

Gringo said...

If Dr. Stein is objecting to the construction of a pipeline, then where was she during the construction of 2.5 million miles of pipelines? Dr. Stein is a little behind the 8-ball, one might say. Or rather selective in her protesting. The odds are pretty good that Dr. Stein uses petroleum products that traveled by pipeline before they got to her. Dr, Stein should purify herself and abjure personal consumption of any petroleum product which traveled by pipeline.


Yes, we should make sure those pipelines are as safe as possible.

Grim said...

I would certainly like to see our pipelines maintained well. That seems like a good way to establish some jobs for out of work Americans.

As for what Dr. Stein was doing, I don't know -- maybe she was in medical school? For all I know she protested plenty of them, though: her name is probably on hundreds of petitions. Just because these environmentalist protests have been completely ineffective doesn't mean that she didn't participate in them. She likely did, in one way or another.

E Hines said...

her name is probably on hundreds of petitions.

It's easy enough to sign a petition these days. You can even do it virtually via the Internet, from the comfort of your couch.

As for her doctor-ness, she's a Harvard-trained internal medicine doctor, practiced for 25 years, and retired from that, having had her experiences with patient health and their environmental quality lead her to activism.

Eric Hines

Ymar Sakar said...

I never had much faith in American elections resolving anything, even in 2007.

If people want to win wars, they should prepare to fight as an insurgency or to fight an insurgency as the counter insurgency. But option is generally not available for the patriots in their country as their country is occupied. This country is occupied by evil. Evil is a little bit more difficult to fight than some guerillas. Same principles.